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    <title>topic Re: Load Balance traffic for outside users as well as internal s in Application Networking</title>
    <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776577#M14965</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;HI Gilles,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanx a ton again. Well I am pretty new to this kind of deployment we stopped selling another kind of load balancer and started selling Cisco's recently. This is just my third deployment and the first one where i got a request from the customer that he needs his servers in the internal vlan to be load balanced.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now coming back to what i did, i thought that i needed to create a new ip that servers should talk to when talking to other servers in the same vlan. So what i did was that i created a client-group1 when server1 talks to the other servers 2,3 and 4 it talks to and a VIP address of 10.10.10.11. And if server 1,3,4 talks to server2 the VIP would be 10.10.10.12.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now as you have suggested my understanding is that I should be doing this way &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config)# group clients-group1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# vip address 10.10.10.11&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# act&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;acl 1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;clause 46 permit any 10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0 destination any sourcegroup clients-group1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;clause 99 permit any any destination any&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;apply circuit-(VLAN10) &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the above configuration if server 1(10.10.10.1) wants to talk to server 2,3,4 the VIP to contact would be 10.10.10.11 and also if server 2 (10.10.10.2) wants to talk to  servers 1,3,4 it the VIP addr would be 10.10.10.11.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-Hoogen&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:02:53 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>hoogen_82</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-12T14:02:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Load Balance traffic for outside users as well as internal server traffic</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776573#M14961</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Gilles,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have my setup still in the design stage.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am going to deploy a simple L4 loadbalancing. I have my clients sitting behind the CSS11501 trying to access my 4 weblogic servers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So my config would look like&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;!*************************** GLOBAL ***************************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.100 1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;!************************* INTERFACE *************************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;interface e12&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;bridge vlan 10&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;!************************** CIRCUIT **************************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;circuit VLAN1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ip address 192.168.1.50 255.255.255.0&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;circuit VLAN10&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ip address 10.10.10.50 255.255.255.0&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;!************************** SERVICE **************************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;service www-server1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ip address 10.10.10.1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;keepalive type http&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;active&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;service www-server2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ip address 10.10.10.2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;keepalive type http&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;active&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;service www-server3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ip address 10.10.10.3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;keepalive type http&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;active&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;service www-server4&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ip address 10.10.10.4&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;keepalive type http&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;active&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;!*************************** OWNER ***************************&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;owner Sample&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;content web-servers&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;protocol tcp&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;port 80&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server4&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;vip address 192.168.1.1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;active&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now i would create 4 more content rules for load balancing within my servers&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;content service-1-backend&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;protocol tcp&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;port 1111&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server4&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;vip address 10.10.10.5&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;active&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;content service-2-backend&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;protocol tcp&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;port 1111&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server4&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;vip address 10.10.10.6&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;active&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;content service-3-backend&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;protocol tcp&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;port 1111&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server4&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;vip address 10.10.10.7&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;active&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;content service-4-backend&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;protocol tcp&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;port 1111&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;add service www-server4&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;vip address 10.10.10.8&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;active&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;this means that service1's src ip would remain its original ip so if it gets mapped to service2, for the backend communication, service2 can talk directly back to service1 - is there any reason this wouldn't work?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Earlier you had asked me to use "Client is configured with the command 'group'.You can use it in combination with an ACL to limit the client nat function to server-to-server traffic."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now i am a little new to the CSS if you explain these accesslist in m context it would be great.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-Hoogen&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:16:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776573#M14961</guid>
      <dc:creator>hoogen_82</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-08T15:16:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Load Balance traffic for outside users as well as internal s</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776574#M14962</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;the problem is not how you configure the CSS.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You would have the same issue with any other device doing destination nat back to the original subnet.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Device A communicate with NAT-IP C.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, when Deivce B responds to A directly, bypassing the nating device [css or not], device A does not accept the packet from B since it is expecting a packet from C and the communication is closed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;you need client nat.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gilles.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:51:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776574#M14962</guid>
      <dc:creator>Gilles Dufour</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-10T18:51:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Load Balance traffic for outside users as well as internal s</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776575#M14963</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Gilles &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As per your update i have created a config as per my understanding. would be possible for you to verify this? &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100# configure &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config)# acl 1 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 50 permit any any destination any &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# apply circuit-(VLAN10) &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# ex &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config)# acl enable &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config)# group clients-group1 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# vip address 10.10.10.11 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# act &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config)# group clients-group2 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# vip address 10.10.10.12 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# act &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config)# group clients-group3 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# vip address 10.10.10.13 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# act &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config)# group clients-group4 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# vip address 10.10.10.14 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# act &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config)# acl disable &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config)# acl 1 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 10 permit any 10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination 10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 15 permit any 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group1 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 16 permit any 10.10.10.3 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group1 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 17 permit any 10.10.10.4 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group1 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 25 permit any 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group2 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 26 permit any 10.10.10.3 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group2 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 27 permit any 10.10.10.4 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group2 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 35 permit any 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group3 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 36 permit any 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group3 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 37 permit any 10.10.10.4 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group3 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 45 permit any 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group4 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 46 permit any 10.10.10.3 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group4 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# clause 47 permit any 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.255 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;destination any sourcegroup clients-group4 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# remove circuit-(VLAN10) &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# apply circuit-(VLAN10) &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-acl[1])# ex &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config)# acl enable &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank You &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hoogen&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:59:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776575#M14963</guid>
      <dc:creator>hoogen_82</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T04:59:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Load Balance traffic for outside users as well as internal s</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776576#M14964</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hoogen,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;you absolutely want to make this complicated :-).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The CSS will do PAT to be correct, so you can use 1 nat_ip for all your servers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;so the config becomes simply&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;acl 1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  clause 46 permit any 10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0 destination &lt;OWNER&gt;/&lt;CONTENT&gt; sourcegroup clients-group1&lt;/CONTENT&gt;&lt;/OWNER&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  clause 99 permit any any destination any&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  apply circuit-(VLAN10)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gilles.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:40:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776576#M14964</guid>
      <dc:creator>Gilles Dufour</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T12:40:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Load Balance traffic for outside users as well as internal s</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776577#M14965</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;HI Gilles,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanx a ton again. Well I am pretty new to this kind of deployment we stopped selling another kind of load balancer and started selling Cisco's recently. This is just my third deployment and the first one where i got a request from the customer that he needs his servers in the internal vlan to be load balanced.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now coming back to what i did, i thought that i needed to create a new ip that servers should talk to when talking to other servers in the same vlan. So what i did was that i created a client-group1 when server1 talks to the other servers 2,3 and 4 it talks to and a VIP address of 10.10.10.11. And if server 1,3,4 talks to server2 the VIP would be 10.10.10.12.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now as you have suggested my understanding is that I should be doing this way &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config)# group clients-group1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# vip address 10.10.10.11&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;CS100(config-group[clients-group])# act&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;acl 1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;clause 46 permit any 10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0 destination any sourcegroup clients-group1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;clause 99 permit any any destination any&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;apply circuit-(VLAN10) &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the above configuration if server 1(10.10.10.1) wants to talk to server 2,3,4 the VIP to contact would be 10.10.10.11 and also if server 2 (10.10.10.2) wants to talk to  servers 1,3,4 it the VIP addr would be 10.10.10.11.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-Hoogen&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:02:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776577#M14965</guid>
      <dc:creator>hoogen_82</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-12T14:02:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Load Balance traffic for outside users as well as internal s</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776578#M14966</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Gilles,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have I got it right atlast?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hoogen&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:19:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/application-networking/load-balance-traffic-for-outside-users-as-well-as-internal/m-p/776578#M14966</guid>
      <dc:creator>hoogen_82</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-06-13T15:19:14Z</dc:date>
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