topic Re: WAAS Netflow Export in Application Networking

WAAS Netflow Export

gustavosmivel — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:22:52 GMT

Can CIsco WAAS generate / Export netflow ?

Re: WAAS Netflow Export

Bhavin Yadav — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:12:16 GMT

Yes. You will find more information here:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/app_ntwk_services/waas/waas/v421/configuration/guide/planning.html#wp1041835

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/app_ntwk_services/waas/waas/v421/configuration/guide/monitor.html#wp1163526

Hope this helps.

Regards.

PS: If this answers your question, please mark this as Answered.

Re: WAAS Netflow Export

johng231 — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:36:55 GMT

WAAS can only do Netflow if you have a very expensive product like NetQoS. They've locked it down to only them and Cisco's NAM product.So if you're not using either one of these your regular NET flow collector will only accept UDP flows not TCP which is what the WAAS uses to send its flows.

Re: WAAS Netflow Export

Bhavin Yadav — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:52:52 GMT

Hi John,

That's not completely true. WAAS does flow the agent to any netflow collector / analyzer. NetQoS and NAM can understand this traffic directly where as you will need additional customized api if you want to export the stats from WAAS to others.

All these APIs are publicly available and listed here: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6870/products_programming_reference_guides_list.html

You can use WAE CM to export these numbers to any NetFlow analyzer.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

PS: Please mark this as Answered, if this answers your question.

Re: WAAS Netflow Export

jakewilson — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:32:28 GMT

Cisco WAAS reporting using NetFlow can be done with almost any

NetFlow collector that supports both ingress and egress flows. We posted a Best Practices blog releated to Cisco WAAS and NetFlow.

Re: WAAS Netflow Export

Phil33300 — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:58:36 GMT

Hi,

my understanding is somewhat different. It seems (it is hard to find out the info.) that the flow agent exports some data regarding response time. The API you are refering to doesn't describe how to receive and parse the flow from the flow agent in the WAE. If this is possible, please tell us how ...

Thanks,

--Phil

Re: WAAS Netflow Export

Jan Rockstedt — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 06:23:59 GMT

I don't understand why we can’t change the netflow export to different port.

This will help us much as we use WCCP over GRE and we don’t see the original traffic from the router in our IDS system, only the encapsulated GRE traffic.

Regards Jan

Re: WAAS Netflow Export

Don Jacob — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:32:37 GMT

Hi All,

Cisco WAAS Flow Monitoring is different from traditional or flexible NetFlow available on Cisco devices and so NetFlow analysis tools cannot process them. All flow analyzers can process NetFlow data exported from devices that have WAE included with them. But that is just NetFlow and not WAAS Flow Monitoring.

From what I have heard, WAAS Flow Monitoring is very specific and these flows can be processed only by NetQoS and you will need NetQoS SuperAgent for this. The NetQoS SuperAgent processes the flows received from WAAS FlowAgent (which again was developed by NetQoS) sitting on the WAE. More details in the below link:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/nsite/enterprise/wan/wan_optimization/chap04.html#wp1053045

But there are API's available for WAAS monitoring using which any analyzed tools can report on the performance of your WAAS optimization. ManageEngine NetFlow Analyzer supports WAAS reporting using API. More information in the below link:

http://www.manageengine.com/products/netflow/help/add-ons/waas/about-waas.html

For the type of reports available, check the below link:

https://blogs.manageengine.com/netflowanalyzer/2011/07/11/cisco-waas-reporting-in-netflow-analyzer-part-2

Regards,

Don Thomas Jacob

ME NetFlow Analyzer

Re: WAAS Netflow Export

Phil33300 — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:06:43 GMT

Hi Don,

but in this case (integration with WAAS using the API, not using the flow data from the flow agent), we can't collect the response time:

Packet arrival time in milliseconds

The question is: is this flow agent export "open" for everyone or not ? I'm using opensource solutions, I can't pay for NetQoS or NAM. I would like to know if there is a way to integrate with this flow agent and collect the response time.

Regards,

--Phil