topic Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem) in Collaboration Applications

Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

ari.chakrabarti — Mon, 18 Mar 2019 02:16:13 GMT

Hi,

How can I have a video conference between Spark Cloud registered endpoints (like Room 55 and 70) with CUCM registered on-prem endpoints like IX5000.

For the Spark Cloud registered endpoints we are also using Cisco Hybrid Media Node (HMN). I do understand that HMN will be supporting video conferencing with on-prem CUCM registered endpoints (road-mapped) but trying to understand if we need any other components in the mix or is it just a s/w upgrade on HMN that will enable the on-prem bridging capability.

Appreciate any responses in advance.

Regards,

Ari Cisco’s Hybrid Media Node (HMN)? Hybrid Media Node (HMN)? Cisco’s Hybrid Media Node (HMN)?

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

skilambi — Sat, 06 Jan 2018 19:57:54 GMT

Hmn now supporting CCM endpoints is GA.

HMN is a node controlled by the WebEx cloud so you still need a WebEx subscription to enable CMR bridging in the cloud and then HMN will do on premise bridging for your spark or internal CCM endpoints based on the Stun tests latency results to the cloud vs HMN

Thanks

Srini

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

Mamdouh Magdi Mohammed Sharaf — Sun, 07 Jan 2018 06:16:13 GMT

Thanks Sir

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cloudCollaboration/spark/hybridservices/mediaservice/deployment/cmgt_b_hybrid-media-deployment-guide/cmgt_b_hybrid-media-deployment-guide_chapter_0111.html

Mamdouh

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

ari.chakrabarti — Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:08:05 GMT

Thanks but I guess the question is not what is Hybrid Media Node. I am well aware of it.

The question is how will Room Endpoints register to the Spark Cloud have a video conference with CUCM registered endpoints.

The HMN phase 2 is supposed to bridge the on Prem CUCM registered endpoints so a call flow will help how that will work. Specially if this needs any other component in the mix or not .

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

skilambi — Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:22:06 GMT

Only components are HMN. Spark reg endpoint inside the company will do a Stun test and if they can reach the HMN will send the media there and a cascade channel to the cloud

Expressway isn’t used to send this traffic today

Have you see this link?

https://www.cisco.com/go/hybrid-services-media

It has deployment guide and flows

Thanks

Srini

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

panjwani80 — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 19:35:36 GMT

I have a large customer using WebEx MC Video Conferencing (CMR Cloud). They are planning to buy large number of room based endpoints for their new campus and we are proposing HMN to allow room based endpoints and WebEx to join in a single conference.

My questions are:

1) With CMR Cloud only active speaker is supported. With the introduction of HMN will it now support full continuous presence between room based endpoints and WebEx?

2) How does the scheduling works when the solutions involves WebEX and HMN. Is TMS/TMSXE supported in this setup?

3) Is there a need to position CMS in this scenario or CMR Cloud/HMN combo is good enough?

Thanks

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

skilambi — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 20:50:23 GMT

1) Actually now CMR-C has grid layout support already so you can see "brady bunch" squares if you want. It's a new layout option in 32.X release can't remember the exact one but if you are 32.9 or so u will have it. Now that doesn't fix multi-stream where everyone sees everyone irrespective of how u join via TP or WebEx but that's coming. On the PC side I have tested this and it works well, I had folks join via TP and mobile app and had a nice grid layout.

2) You can do OBTP with TMS/TMS-XE

3) I don't see a reason, that's the point of HMN is to give you that on-premise video bridging. CMS still has some features advanced on the MS side like dual homing if that's important but hopefully some day CMS technology moves to CMR-C to make that gap go away...

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

skilambi — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 20:54:11 GMT

One old post from me but some things have changed like web browser web app for WebEx now does support sharing too and mobile SFB is now fixed too for CMR-C

Lync/S4B interoperability support - WebEx MC (CMR Cloud) vs. Acano

https://collaborationhelp.cisco.com/article/en-us/ipxxr2

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

panjwani80 — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 21:14:45 GMT

Thanks Srini, I just saw new features in WebEx 32.9 and it does support multi streaming now!

Multi-Streaming Video Across WebEx and Video Endpoints: Users on video endpoints and WebEx apps will now be able to see video from all other meeting participants. This is a significant enhancement from current experience that allows participants that use WebEx applications to only see active speakers from users joining via video endpoints and vice versa.

Another quick question, in the CMR-C 32 limitations document I saw the following do you know if this is still a limitation?

WebEx meeting features
If you are hosting a meeting that includes video systems, the following in-meeting features are unavailable: Whiteboard, document sharing, Polling, File Transfer and Chat (with TP room participants)

Thanks

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

skilambi — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 21:41:53 GMT

I believe so haven't tested recently

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

Patrick Sparkman — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 22:02:31 GMT

Multistreaming with CMR Cloud is available with WBS 32.9 that is running video platform version 2, keep in mind that the video platform version 2 upgrade might not be immediately be available on the date of your site upgrade, as it will be rolled out over time.

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

steven1066 — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 07:56:25 GMT

This is a great thread, but I do need confirmation as I believe you have the answer

With HMN, is TMSXE and OBTP supported for those endpoints connected via CUCM?

If you have a link to this confirmation all the better.

Thanks

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

skilambi — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 13:20:46 GMT

Yes see here

Thanks

Srini

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

steven1066 — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:42:48 GMT

Perfect Srini, exactly what I was looking for. I didn't think it would be an issue, but needed confirmation all the same.

Thanks, Steven

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

skilambi — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:50:54 GMT

One caveat with HMN, Video call back using WebEx isn’t supported, that will come from the cloud. However if you dial into WebEx SIP URI, that will use HMN, make sense?

Srini Kilambi

UC Solution Architect | CDW

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

steven1066 — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 15:16:40 GMT

Many thanks again for pointing this out and yes that does make sense Srini.

Steven

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

Stoyan Stoitsev — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 16:01:31 GMT

I'm not sure that HMN supports multistreaming yet I think it is also "coming really soon"

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

skilambi — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 16:08:54 GMT

Stoyan

I believe its there for spark reg endpoints but not CCM ( I know it's super confusing where each part is sometimes) in the #agile roadmap

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

Stoyan Stoitsev — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 17:24:37 GMT

yeah, I hope they GA it not too far from now so we don't have to keep in mind yet another IF

Re: Spark Room Endpoints Conferencing with CUCM Registered Endpoints(on Prem)

telecastle — Sat, 17 Mar 2018 14:32:31 GMT

To follow up on Ari's question:

An enterprise has one CUCM cluster deployed at a large campus with video endpoints registered directly to the on-prem CUCM cluster. There is also an on-prem HMN for keeping video media streams local to the large campus. The same enterprise has global presence with offices located in various world regions where video endpoints register directly to Spark (due to the lack of the enterprise CUCM clusters in other regions).

The goal is to be able to conduct WebEx meetings among video endpoints registered to CUCM, video endpoints registered to Spark, and WebEx users participating from their workstations/laptops/tablets/smartphones.

1. Is it possible to conference the two environments via WebEx: video endpoints registered to the on-prem CUCM (with on-prem HMN) and video endpoints registered to Spark?

2. Would the video endpoints registered to CUCM get OBTP for such WebEx meetings?

3. Would the video endpoints registered to Spark get OBTP for such WebEx meetings?

4. Can such WebEx meetings be scheduled via MS Exchange, and if so, is TMS required for the scheduling integration via MS Exchange?

5. Is TMS required for OBTP?

Thank you.