topic Re: Secure Endpoint in Endpoint Security

Secure Endpoint & Endpoint Visibility

larry.siegelman — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 15:16:50 GMT

Hello,

We would like to distribute Secure Endpoint to other devices that are considered BYOD in our organization.

The issue of privacy concerns popped up, and we need to reassure the end-user of a private device, that Secure Endpoint cannot see files or folders on the device.

Re: Secure Endpoint

Ken Stieers — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 17:07:13 GMT

That's just sort of how Secure Endpoint works....
You can turn off file uploads/retrieval for a group, but when it finds something, it will tell you what and where the file is.
If you look at device trajectory, it will tell you where a file executed from, what files it created, etc., so there is a certain amount of data that could be extracted from the UI without any "extra" effort...

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Re: Secure Endpoint

larry.siegelman — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 17:14:13 GMT

Hi,
The identification of suspected malware and the affected file makes sense.
But, you cannot traverse to other folders to see their contents, correct?

Re: Secure Endpoint

Ken Stieers — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 18:00:14 GMT

You'll also see what's happening on the box, "chrome downloaded a file, Word opened it.", etc.
But no you can't go generally browsing with just AMP... you could get that info if you enable Orbital.

Re: Secure Endpoint & Endpoint Visibility

Troja007 — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 18:10:01 GMT

BTW, just wanted to mention... even you can query the endpoint and looking for files with Orbital, you cannot view the content of a file...
Regarding file uploads, Secure Endpoint support PEs only, so Text files or documents will not be uploaded to the File Repository.
Greetings, Thorsten

Re: Secure Endpoint & Endpoint Visibility

johnosn — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 18:54:04 GMT

That is partially correct. There are various methods for files to be pulled into the File Repository. The most common is "Automatic Analysis" which is limited to PE files. However other file types can end up in the File Repository from a request by the user in the Cisco Secure Endpoint console or via an "Automated Action". If the "Submit to Secure Malware Analytics upon Detection" automated action is enabled, it will put the detected file into the File Repository and send it to Cisco Secure Malware Analytics for analysis. Depending on your privacy setting for submission by Cisco Secure Endpoint to Secure Malware Analytics, the analysis results could be available to the "public".

There is the potential for bleeding over user data into the various Cisco Security products.Automated Action and User request for .doc* files

Re: Secure Endpoint

larry.siegelman — Thu, 10 Feb 2022 04:44:57 GMT

Thank you for that detailed explanation.
I had not considered the potential exposure of documents once sent for
analysis.
However, is it not recommended to send automatically for analysis upon
detection?
I know it is company-dependent, but is there a benefit of just blocking
detections without any analysis?

Re: Secure Endpoint & Endpoint Visibility

Enrico Werner — Thu, 10 Feb 2022 09:36:21 GMT

Every Sample submitted to Cisco Secure Malware Analytics gets tagged:

•Public –Sample will be visible globally (each user can access all the details of the report)
•Private –Sample is only visible to the submitting Organization

Automated Submissions from an AMP-Enabled Integration are always marked private

Re: Secure Endpoint & Endpoint Visibility

larry.siegelman — Thu, 10 Feb 2022 09:40:44 GMT

Thank you very much @Enrico Werner.

That really helps us with privacy and issues related to possible "info bleed."