topic Re: How does LiveSession tab work? in Network Access Control

How does LiveSession tab work?

alyautdinov — Mon, 25 Feb 2019 14:57:01 GMT

Hello Team,

Please explain me how does LiveSession tab work?

We haven't seen existing session in this tab. But we see it in LiveLog. After re-login the session is appear again.

Some sessions have been holding in table for two or more weeks. But some sessions have cleared after a few hours.

Is it normal behaviour?

Re: How does LiveSession tab work?

Mike.Cifelli — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 18:40:26 GMT

Not sure I fully understand your question. However, here is some information that may help:
There are ways to purge endpoints in ISE. You can purge immediately, or you can configure a specific number of days when to purge items. To setup endpoint purge:
Administration->Identity Management->Settings->Endpoint Purge
Configure rules to match certain endpoint groups & select another condition such as ElapsedDays greater than XX number of days

You can configure in ISE how long to keep local logs:
To configure local log settings:
Administration->System->Logging->Local Log Settings->Set your days

The radius live sessions is a tab that will show you detailed information on all of your radius sessions. Information will/should include things such as endpoint id, session status, profile, authentication protocol, etc. You can filter the view. From this tab you can also issue CoA actions that include session termination OR session reauthentication.

HTH!

Re: How does LiveSession tab work?

Rahul Govindan — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 19:17:22 GMT

ISE populates its Live session database from Radius Accounting Start and Stop messages. So once your network device sends the Accounting start message, it will populate shortly on the Live session tab.

You could be seeing sessions that are present for longer if the network device does not send the Accounting stop message. Also, devices can send Interim Accounting messages to keep the session active. If the ISE does not receive any Interim accounting message from the network device for 5 days, it clears the session from the database.

ISE 2.4 has had some issues with Live sessions populating correctly. Bug below:

https://bst.cloudapps.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCvk48315/?rfs=iqvred

Re: How does LiveSession tab work?

alyautdinov — Wed, 27 Feb 2019 06:48:51 GMT

Thanks Rahul,

As I understood, a session in LiveSession will remove from table if Acct-Stop was sended or timeout for 5 days. Can we tune this timeout or no? And after what time NAD has send Acct-Stop command?

Re: How does LiveSession tab work?

Damien Miller — Tue, 05 Mar 2019 03:10:29 GMT

No, this 5 day timeout is hard coded in ISE. The NAD will send an accounting stop, assuming it is configured to send accounting updates, when the authentication session is removed. ex. The port status goes down/down when an endpoint disconnects.

There are times where the session may remain active, an example of this could be when an endpoint was connected to a phone or transparent switch. The session remains active in sh auth session, even after the endpoint is unplugged. In this cases you can leverage timers to get a more timely resolution.