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    <title>topic Re: DTLS Handshake Fails and than Connects in Network Access Control</title>
    <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-access-control/dtls-handshake-fails-and-than-connects/m-p/5296288#M596635</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Interesting - where do you see the CoA failure? Was it a CoA failure, or a TLS establishment failure?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 20:48:30 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Arne Bier</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-06-03T20:48:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>DTLS Handshake Fails and than Connects</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-access-control/dtls-handshake-fails-and-than-connects/m-p/5296245#M596631</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;When I do a CoA command on my cisco ISE Server to any device it fails about ten times then it succeeds. It isn't a big deal because it eventually succeeds, but I'm wondering if anyone has an idea why it fails 10 times before it succeeds.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Switch Cisco 9300&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ISE Server Firmware:&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;3.4.0.608&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;aaa server radius dynamic-author&lt;BR /&gt;client 192.168.1.2 dtls client-tp CiscoISEServer1-SelfSigned server-tp Switch-SELF-SIGNED&lt;BR /&gt;client 192.168.1.3 dtls client-tp CiscoISEServer2-SelfSigned server-tp Switch-SELF-SIGNED&lt;BR /&gt;dtls ip radius source-interface Vlan10&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Fails (Ten Times)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H3&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Steps&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/H3&gt;&lt;TABLE border="0" cellpadding="3"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Step ID&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Description&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Latency (ms)&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91070&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS CoA handshake started&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91042&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent client hello message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91042&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent client hello message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91106&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: received client hello verify request&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91042&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent client hello message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91042&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent client hello message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91043&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: received server hello message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91044&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: received server certificate&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91046&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: received server done message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91048&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent client key exchange message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91040&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent change cipher spec message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91041&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent finished message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Connects one time&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H3&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Steps&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/H3&gt;&lt;TABLE border="0" cellpadding="3"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Step ID&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Description&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Latency (ms)&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91070&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS CoA handshake started&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91042&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent client hello message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91042&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent client hello message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91106&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: received client hello verify request&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91042&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent client hello message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91042&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent client hello message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91043&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: received server hello message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91044&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: received server certificate&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91046&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: received server done message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91048&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent client key exchange message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91040&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent change cipher spec message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91041&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent finished message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91041&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: sent finished message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91049&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: read server session ticket&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;91039&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;RADIUS DTLS: received finished message&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 16:20:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-access-control/dtls-handshake-fails-and-than-connects/m-p/5296245#M596631</guid>
      <dc:creator>BlackDiamond71</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-03T16:20:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: DTLS Handshake Fails and than Connects</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-access-control/dtls-handshake-fails-and-than-connects/m-p/5296288#M596635</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Interesting - where do you see the CoA failure? Was it a CoA failure, or a TLS establishment failure?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 20:48:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-access-control/dtls-handshake-fails-and-than-connects/m-p/5296288#M596635</guid>
      <dc:creator>Arne Bier</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-03T20:48:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: DTLS Handshake Fails and than Connects</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-access-control/dtls-handshake-fails-and-than-connects/m-p/5296292#M596636</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The Cisco ISE log just says "&lt;SPAN&gt;5450 RADIUS DTLS handshake failed". After about ten attempts/logs later it says "5241 RADIUS DTLS handshake succeeded"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 21:01:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-access-control/dtls-handshake-fails-and-than-connects/m-p/5296292#M596636</guid>
      <dc:creator>BlackDiamond71</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-03T21:01:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: DTLS Handshake Fails and than Connects</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-access-control/dtls-handshake-fails-and-than-connects/m-p/5296296#M596637</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I haven't used DTLS yet - but &lt;A href="https://community.cisco.com/t5/networking-knowledge-base/configuring-radius-over-dtls-with-cat9k-and-ise-3-0/ta-p/4438427" target="_self"&gt;I found a great Cisco article&lt;/A&gt; - have you seen this?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The suggestion to run a tcpdump seems a good one - to see why the TLS handshake is failing - perhaps it's negotiating various TLS versions and ciphers until Cat9K and ISE agree ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 21:44:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-access-control/dtls-handshake-fails-and-than-connects/m-p/5296296#M596637</guid>
      <dc:creator>Arne Bier</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-06-03T21:44:20Z</dc:date>
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