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    <title>topic what is cisco pix_access_list_elements in Network Security</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a pix-515e firewall with 7(0)x verion of image. when i issue sh run, i cud see 1000 lines of acls, and when i issue show access-list i could see that there are 30000 access list elements. &lt;BR /&gt;what is the diff between access list elements and acl lines ?&lt;BR /&gt;how to reduce the acl elements ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks,&lt;BR /&gt;rajesh&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 03:40:30 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>secureIT</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-03-12T03:40:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>what is cisco pix_access_list_elements</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-security/what-is-cisco-pix-access-list-elements/m-p/2444995#M270292</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a pix-515e firewall with 7(0)x verion of image. when i issue sh run, i cud see 1000 lines of acls, and when i issue show access-list i could see that there are 30000 access list elements. &lt;BR /&gt;what is the diff between access list elements and acl lines ?&lt;BR /&gt;how to reduce the acl elements ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks,&lt;BR /&gt;rajesh&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 03:40:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-security/what-is-cisco-pix-access-list-elements/m-p/2444995#M270292</guid>
      <dc:creator>secureIT</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-12T03:40:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>what is cisco pix_access_list_elements</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-security/what-is-cisco-pix-access-list-elements/m-p/2444996#M270294</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I imagine that you have ACL configuration that utilizes &lt;STRONG&gt;"object-group"&lt;/STRONG&gt; in the configuration. This essentially means that you ACL configuration is shorter than the actual full ACL that the ASA uses.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Take for example these 2 configurations&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;Example 1&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;access-list TEST-1 permit ip any any&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;ASA(config)# sh access-list TEST-1&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;access-list TEST-1; 1 elements; name hash: 0x5f8608f2&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;access-list TEST-1 line 1 extended permit ip any any (hitcnt=0) 0xa45bef40&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As you can see from the above we only have a single configuration line. As it doesnt have any &lt;STRONG&gt;"object-group"&lt;/STRONG&gt; used for either services or IP address/networks it means that it only contains this single rule. So there is only a single &lt;STRONG&gt;"element"&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;Example 2&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;object-group network TEST&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; network-object host 1.1.1.1&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; network-object host 1.1.1.2&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; network-object host 1.1.1.3&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; network-object host 1.1.1.4&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;access-list TEST-2 permit ip any object-group TEST&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;ASA(config)# sh access-list TEST-2&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;access-list TEST-2; 4 elements; name hash: 0xc7ff2230&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;access-list TEST-2 line 1 extended permit ip any object-group TEST 0xabbab304&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; access-list TEST-2 line 1 extended permit ip any host 1.1.1.1 (hitcnt=0) 0x8af4a0e1&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; access-list TEST-2 line 1 extended permit ip any host 1.1.1.2 (hitcnt=0) 0xbd31ccb2&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; access-list TEST-2 line 1 extended permit ip any host 1.1.1.3 (hitcnt=0) 0x32e99e16&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; access-list TEST-2 line 1 extended permit ip any host 1.1.1.4 (hitcnt=0) 0xcb4432ae&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As you can see from the above example we first create an &lt;STRONG&gt;"object-group"&lt;/STRONG&gt; that contains 4 IP addresses and then we use this &lt;STRONG&gt;"object-group"&lt;/STRONG&gt; as the destination address of the single ACL configuration line. This means the actual rule is that we permit traffic to all 4 of these destination IP addresses in the configuration and therefore it has 4 &lt;STRONG&gt;"elements"&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So you ACL configuration might include large amounts of &lt;STRONG&gt;"object-group"&lt;/STRONG&gt; used. You would have to see if all of them are needed. For example if you use &lt;STRONG&gt;"object-group service"&lt;/STRONG&gt; type of &lt;STRONG&gt;"object-group"&lt;/STRONG&gt; in your configuratins with several ports defined then this will easily generate a lot of extra ACL "elements"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hope this helps &lt;SPAN __jive_emoticon_name="happy" __jive_macro_name="emoticon" class="jive_macro jive_emote" src="https://community.cisco.com/4.5.4/images/emoticons/happy.gif"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- Jouni&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:40:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-security/what-is-cisco-pix-access-list-elements/m-p/2444996#M270294</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jouni Forss</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-02-05T14:40:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>what is cisco pix_access_list_elements</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-security/what-is-cisco-pix-access-list-elements/m-p/2444997#M270298</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks Jouni. You are right. I had confirmed the same with Cisco Tac yesterday.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well anyway to optimize ACL lookup in PIX 7(0) versions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:09:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-security/what-is-cisco-pix-access-list-elements/m-p/2444997#M270298</guid>
      <dc:creator>secureIT</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-02-06T14:09:57Z</dc:date>
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