topic Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ? in Network Security

Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

bastien.migette — Sun, 10 Mar 2019 11:55:46 GMT

Hi all, I previously opened a topic about my pain with my IDS, but this is an off topic question, so I post here, but I'll let the mods moving if needed. Well, I was wondering if a hard drive is required to run the IDS 4215 ? I got everything booting up, but then my analysis engine, after going high on CPU crashed. The IDS I got has no hard drive, so I was wondering if someone would have ran an IDS 4215 with no hard drive, or can this be my cause of failure ?

Thanks.

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

Jennifer Halim — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:12:32 GMT

Yes, you would need to have hard drive on IDS 4215.

It is also specified in the documentation that you would need to:

Only use the replacement IDE hard-disk drive from Cisco. We cannot guarantee that other hard-disk drives will operate properly with the IPS.<\quote>

Here is the URL for your reference:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/ips/6.0/installation/guide/hw4215.html#wp562145

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

bastien.migette — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:26:13 GMT

Ok, I'll try to get some old IDE drives to plug into and try. That could explain my errors... I'll update my case on this thread.

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

bastien.migette — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:25:23 GMT

Ok, I guess I need a 2"5 as there's no power alim to the hard drive... Does anyone ever tried replacing the hard drive ? If so, what was the brand ?

thanks

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

Jennifer Halim — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:39:03 GMT

Hi Bastien,

As stated in the post earlier, you would need to purchase the Hard Drive from Cisco:

Only use the replacement IDE hard-disk drive from Cisco. We cannot guarantee that other hard-disk drives will operate properly with the IPS.<\quote>

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

bastien.migette — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:45:58 GMT

Yes, but I didn't see any part number for a spare hard drive, and I got my IDS 200$ on ebay, It's for working on my certs, and I guess cisco's spare hard drive will be incredibely expensive ... I guess it's nothing more than a 2"5 IDE drive ? that's the same thing with SFP modules, you can use non cisco and it works good... So I guess cisco is not a hard drive manufacturer so they would use a standard hard drive ...

Thanks

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

Jennifer Halim — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:51:49 GMT

Please also be advised that 4215 is EOL as per the following notice:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/vpndevc/ps5729/ps5713/ps4077/ps5367/end_of_life_notice_for_cisco_ids_4215_sensor.html

Even if you are able to get it working, you would still need to purchase the IPS subscription otherwise, you can't update the signature file, and the last day for any signature update for the 4215 is July 29, 2011

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

bastien.migette — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:55:15 GMT

yes, but again, I do not really care about having signature up to date, I just want to test some features to work my IPS certification (CCSP track), I won't use it in a production network.

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

Jennifer Halim — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:00:28 GMT

Ok that makes sense.

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

bobbycornetto — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:04:20 GMT

I'm in the same boat. Does anyone have an IDS 4215 that could open it up and look -- maybe even take a photo? There has to be a 3rd party hard drive that will work.

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

bastien.migette — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:26:11 GMT

I have bought an Used 2"5 hardrive on ebay, Hope that'll work.

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

bobbycornetto — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:23:29 GMT

Let us know if it works.

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

bastien.migette — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:54:32 GMT

Just installed a spare

http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=StorageSolutions/MK3021GAS

It seem to work, my CPU is still running at 100%, but see that :

sensor# sh ver
Application Partition:

Cisco Intrusion Prevention System, Version 5.1(6)E1

Host:
    Realm Keys          key1.0
Signature Definition:
    Signature Update    S291.0                   2007-06-18
    Virus Update        V1.2                     2005-11-24
OS Version:             2.4.26-IDS-smp-bigphys
Platform:               IDS-4215
Serial Number:          88809300465
No license present
Sensor up-time is 7 min.
Using 393707520 out of 460161024 bytes of available memory (85% usage)
system is using 17.4M out of 29.0M bytes of available disk space (60% usage)
application-data is using 36.9M out of 166.8M bytes of available disk space (23% usage)
boot is using 35.3M out of 68.6M bytes of available disk space (54% usage)
application-log is using 35.0M out of 2.8G bytes of available disk space (1% usage)

MainApp          Z-2007_JUN_19_12_49   (Release)   2007-06-19T13:04:08-0500   Running
AnalysisEngine   Z-2007_JUN_19_12_49   (Release)   2007-06-19T13:04:08-0500   Running
CLI              Z-2007_JUN_19_12_49   (Release)   2007-06-19T13:04:08-0500

Upgrade History:

IPS-K9-5.1-6-E1   17:46:39 UTC Thu Mar 25 2010

Recovery Partition Version 1.1 - 5.1(6)E1

sensor#

Edit: My CPU gone to normal after 10 minutes

IDM is also working, so my woes was definitively related to the hard drive !

Thanks guys for the support

Re: Is hard drive needed on IDS 4215 ?

Jennifer Halim — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:35:22 GMT

Thanks for the update. Good to hear it's working now.