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    <title>topic Re: Permitted 5 Ghz frequency bands in the UK in Wireless</title>
    <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/permitted-5-ghz-frequency-bands-in-the-uk/m-p/196219#M195006</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have answered each of your questions seperately,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.I have been researching the use of the two unlicensed spectrums in the UK.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;These are 2.4 and 5 GHz.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Within the 5 GHz spectrum there are 3 bands, the lower two, (A,B) have been&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;designated licence exempt.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The two bands are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Freq Range                   Service                             Max EIRP&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Addit. req's&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A: 5150-5350 Mhz        mobile, indoor only        200 mW             DFS,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;TPC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;B: 5470-5725 Mhz        Mobile, outdoor              1W&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;DFS, TPC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Reply)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;UK has implemented interim regulations that allow products without&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;DFS (such as 802.11a) to use the band 5150 to 5350 MHz. The power level&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;for these systems is 120 mW EIRP if TPC is implemented; otherwise it is&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;only 60 mW. The Cisco 802.11a products have been notified in the UK and&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;are now being placed on the UK market.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The UK interim regulations are covered by the Interface Requirement&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;IR2006 (Attached). You will notice that the date for this IR is October&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2002.  However, it was only recently (Jan 2003) that the spectrum became&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;license free.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;++++&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2.Having taken a look at the Aironet 1200 AP Datasheets and the&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;frequencies for 5 Ghz ( 5.15 to 5.35 GHz (FCC UNII 1 and UNII 2) I can&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;see that only band A is supported. Band A has been specified for indoor&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;use.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Reply)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, that is the present situation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;++++&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3.Is there any planned support for the 5470-5725 mhz band?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Reply)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes.  The details of the DFS requirements for the B band are incomplete.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;These are being worked on by the ETSI BRAN committee as&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;part of a 5GHz Harmonized Standard. It may turn out that it is not&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;possible to complete this standard until after the 2003 World Radio&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Conference (WRC) to be held in Geneva throughout June.  The good news&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;part of this delay is that it arises because there is an excellent chance we&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;will get a worldwide co-primary allocation of the A and B 5GHz bands for&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Radio LANs at this WRC. Given normal voting and ratification delays, we&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;expect the Harmonized Standard to be available no later than 1QCY04.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;++++&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4.Also, do the Aironet's support Dynamic Frequency selection (DFS) which&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;will be a requirement in the UK in areas of dense spectrum usage.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Reply)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;DFS will be required in the UK to access the full spectrum&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(455 MHz = A + B Bands = 19 channels). The Aironet 5GHz&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;products do not currently support DFS because the standard for it is not&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;completed.  Cisco engineers are very active in this standards work&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and Cisco products will include DFS as soon as possible after&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;the standard is finalized.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;++++&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5.Does anyone know of any 802.11a implementations in the UK? How did they&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;get around this issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Reply)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As noted above, interim regulations that were implemented last&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;October allow sale and use of products without DFS capability in the band&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5150 to 5350 MHz. At that time a license was still required, but that&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;has changed as of end of Jan 2003. There is no need anymore for a&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;license and you will soon be able to buy Cisco 5GHz products in the UK.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;++++&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:39:10 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>fbarook</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2003-03-03T14:39:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Permitted 5 Ghz frequency bands in the UK</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/permitted-5-ghz-frequency-bands-in-the-uk/m-p/196218#M195005</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I wonder if anyone could assist me with my question. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have been researching the use of the two unlicensed spectrums in the UK. These are 2.4 and 5 GHz. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Within the 5 GHz spectrum there are 3 bands, the lower two, (A,B) have been designated licence exempt. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The two bands are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Freq Range                   Service                             Max EIRP           Addit. req's&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A: 5150-5350 Mhz        mobile, indoor only        200 mW             DFS, TPC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;B: 5470-5725 Mhz        Mobile, outdoor              1W                       DFS, TPC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Having taken a look at the Aironet 1200 AP Datasheets and the frequencies for 5 Ghz ( 5.15 to 5.35 GHz (FCC UNII 1 and UNII 2) I can see that only band A is supported. Band A has been specified for indoor use. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there any planned support for the 5470-5725 mhz band?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also, do the Aironet's support Dynamic Frequency selection (DFS) which will be a requirement in the UK in areas of dense spectrum usage. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does anyone know of any 802.11a implementations in the UK? How did they get around this issue. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Many thanks for any assistance anyone may be able to offer. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Freke&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2021 15:32:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/permitted-5-ghz-frequency-bands-in-the-uk/m-p/196218#M195005</guid>
      <dc:creator>frekes</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-04T15:32:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Permitted 5 Ghz frequency bands in the UK</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/permitted-5-ghz-frequency-bands-in-the-uk/m-p/196219#M195006</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have answered each of your questions seperately,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.I have been researching the use of the two unlicensed spectrums in the UK.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;These are 2.4 and 5 GHz.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Within the 5 GHz spectrum there are 3 bands, the lower two, (A,B) have been&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;designated licence exempt.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The two bands are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Freq Range                   Service                             Max EIRP&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Addit. req's&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A: 5150-5350 Mhz        mobile, indoor only        200 mW             DFS,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;TPC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;B: 5470-5725 Mhz        Mobile, outdoor              1W&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;DFS, TPC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Reply)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;UK has implemented interim regulations that allow products without&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;DFS (such as 802.11a) to use the band 5150 to 5350 MHz. The power level&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;for these systems is 120 mW EIRP if TPC is implemented; otherwise it is&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;only 60 mW. The Cisco 802.11a products have been notified in the UK and&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;are now being placed on the UK market.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The UK interim regulations are covered by the Interface Requirement&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;IR2006 (Attached). You will notice that the date for this IR is October&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2002.  However, it was only recently (Jan 2003) that the spectrum became&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;license free.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;++++&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2.Having taken a look at the Aironet 1200 AP Datasheets and the&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;frequencies for 5 Ghz ( 5.15 to 5.35 GHz (FCC UNII 1 and UNII 2) I can&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;see that only band A is supported. Band A has been specified for indoor&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;use.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Reply)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, that is the present situation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;++++&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3.Is there any planned support for the 5470-5725 mhz band?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Reply)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes.  The details of the DFS requirements for the B band are incomplete.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;These are being worked on by the ETSI BRAN committee as&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;part of a 5GHz Harmonized Standard. It may turn out that it is not&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;possible to complete this standard until after the 2003 World Radio&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Conference (WRC) to be held in Geneva throughout June.  The good news&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;part of this delay is that it arises because there is an excellent chance we&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;will get a worldwide co-primary allocation of the A and B 5GHz bands for&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Radio LANs at this WRC. Given normal voting and ratification delays, we&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;expect the Harmonized Standard to be available no later than 1QCY04.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;++++&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4.Also, do the Aironet's support Dynamic Frequency selection (DFS) which&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;will be a requirement in the UK in areas of dense spectrum usage.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Reply)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;DFS will be required in the UK to access the full spectrum&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(455 MHz = A + B Bands = 19 channels). The Aironet 5GHz&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;products do not currently support DFS because the standard for it is not&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;completed.  Cisco engineers are very active in this standards work&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and Cisco products will include DFS as soon as possible after&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;the standard is finalized.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;++++&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5.Does anyone know of any 802.11a implementations in the UK? How did they&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;get around this issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Reply)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As noted above, interim regulations that were implemented last&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;October allow sale and use of products without DFS capability in the band&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5150 to 5350 MHz. At that time a license was still required, but that&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;has changed as of end of Jan 2003. There is no need anymore for a&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;license and you will soon be able to buy Cisco 5GHz products in the UK.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;++++&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:39:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/permitted-5-ghz-frequency-bands-in-the-uk/m-p/196219#M195006</guid>
      <dc:creator>fbarook</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2003-03-03T14:39:10Z</dc:date>
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