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    <title>topic C9800-L without DNA-C, is it possible? in Wireless</title>
    <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/c9800-l-without-dna-c-is-it-possible/m-p/3999317#M201224</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi all,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is that possible to buy and use C9800-L controller, C9xxx APs and C9xxx switches without DNA subscription, will that devices works on the traditional way (like Aironet wifi devices and Catalyst switches), or not?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If the answer is yes, how should I licensing them? (APs for the controller etc.)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2021 18:26:09 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>schulcz</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-07-05T18:26:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>C9800-L without DNA-C, is it possible?</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/c9800-l-without-dna-c-is-it-possible/m-p/3999317#M201224</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi all,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is that possible to buy and use C9800-L controller, C9xxx APs and C9xxx switches without DNA subscription, will that devices works on the traditional way (like Aironet wifi devices and Catalyst switches), or not?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If the answer is yes, how should I licensing them? (APs for the controller etc.)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2021 18:26:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/c9800-l-without-dna-c-is-it-possible/m-p/3999317#M201224</guid>
      <dc:creator>schulcz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-05T18:26:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: C9800-L without DNA-C, is it possible?</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/c9800-l-without-dna-c-is-it-possible/m-p/3999351#M201225</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;yes it is possible,&amp;nbsp;but the licensing is still called DNA-license:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- Cisco DNA Essentials -&amp;gt; this will be sufficient&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;The Cisco DNA license also includes the Network Essentials and Network Advantage licensing options which cover wireless fundamentals &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- Cisco DNA Advantage&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- Cisco DNA Premie&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/catalyst-9800-series-wireless-controllers/nb-06-cat9800-wirel-cont-data-sheet-ctp-en.html#Licensing" target="_self"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;The Cisco DNA license also includes the Network Essentials and Network Advantage licensing options which cover wireless fundamentals such as 802.1x authentication, QoS, PnP etc, telemetry and visibility, SSO, as well as security controls. These Network essentials and Network advantage components are perpetual and is valid till the life of the AP. Cisco DNA subscription licenses have to be purchased for a 3-, 5-, or 7-year subscription term. However. upon expiry of Cisco DNA license, Cisco DNA features will expire, whereas network essentials and network advantage features will remain. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/catalyst-9800-series-wireless-controllers/nb-06-cat9800-wirel-cont-data-sheet-ctp-en.html#Licensing" target="_self"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Note:&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It is not required to deploy Cisco DNA Center just to use one of the above packages.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:35:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/c9800-l-without-dna-c-is-it-possible/m-p/3999351#M201225</guid>
      <dc:creator>pieterh</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-16T12:35:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: C9800-L without DNA-C, is it possible?</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/c9800-l-without-dna-c-is-it-possible/m-p/4000000#M201226</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes the 9800 (like said) will work fine without a DNA-C&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But you still need the licenses, they are now just called DNA licensed (and before that ONE and so on, and so on ......)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please also be aware that some features (and this might come as a surprise to some, it did for me) like ISSU upgrading of a pair of 9800 will only be avalible in the "high" license.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2019 15:01:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/c9800-l-without-dna-c-is-it-possible/m-p/4000000#M201226</guid>
      <dc:creator>Thomas Obbekaer Thomsen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-12-17T15:01:44Z</dc:date>
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