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    <title>topic Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior in Wireless</title>
    <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3958268#M201793</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;This is very similar to an issue I have in our foreign offices. We have 2504's and Cap2602I,s but updating to 3504's to hopefully fix the issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We seem to see the same issue with Intel wireless. A device seems to be connected, but can't go anywhere and can last up to 2 hours. It's extremely random and hard to recreate, but I was able to get it to happen a couple times to a test device.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From packet captures and debugs, I can see it being a ping/DHCP issue. It seems that Intel devices ping the default gateway every few seconds. I think this is to detect a vlan change cause if it misses 5 pings, it kicks off DHCP. Now, what I saw is the WLC sent the request, and got the response from the DHCP server, but a packet capture on the device showed no response from the server and if you do ipconfig, you should see the computer with a default 169 address. I worked with TAC on this and they blamed it on Intel and closed the case.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A month or so down the road, I got it to happen again, and this time had a sniffer to see the wireless traffic. I could see the DHCP response on the WLC, but the sniffer was not seeing the packet being broadcast, so it proved it's a Cisco issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It also seems to be with 802.1x or higher auth as a hotspot with a psk never had the issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My downside is out support lapsed as we are upgrading to 3504's, so I can't open another ticket until I see the same issue on the new controllers. We had the issue on 8.5 code, and I was hoping the 8.8 code had fixed it. The weird issue is I have never seen it in our main facilities, but we have 2802's and 4800's in those, so may be with the older APs.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 21:55:16 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Dustin Anderson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-11-13T21:55:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954539#M201773</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;we have&amp;nbsp;WLC 3504 ios 8.8.120.0 + set of AIR-CAP3702I-E-K9&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From time to time, clients experience problems connecting to a wireless network. Two identical twin laptops can be a meter away from the access point and on one there will be everything OK and on the other there are communication problems.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Laptops equipped with Intel AC 9560.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Event log for problem laptop attached.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2021 18:15:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954539#M201773</guid>
      <dc:creator>slyfox</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-05T18:15:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954564#M201774</link>
      <description>A metre away from the AP ... a 3702E. &lt;BR /&gt;What antenna is the 3702E using?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 08:08:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954564#M201774</guid>
      <dc:creator>Leo Laohoo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-07T08:08:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954584#M201775</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.cisco.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/326026"&gt;@Leo Laohoo&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; I mentioned 3702I, it has an integrated antenna.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 08:35:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954584#M201775</guid>
      <dc:creator>slyfox</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-07T08:35:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954591#M201776</link>
      <description>Only these two wireless clients having problems? &lt;BR /&gt;What about other wireless clients?  They having same problems?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 08:42:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954591#M201776</guid>
      <dc:creator>Leo Laohoo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-07T08:42:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954601#M201777</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;At one point, a problem can be observed with 1-2 clients, but then go through and not appear at all anywhere. Replacing a wifi adapter may help. Also moving laptop btw AP also may help.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can AAA settings affect?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 08:53:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954601#M201777</guid>
      <dc:creator>slyfox</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-07T08:53:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954606#M201778</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;- Following your debug log(s) , you may want to feed them into the &lt;STRONG&gt;Wireless Debug Analyzer&lt;/STRONG&gt; available from the link below.&amp;nbsp; You may also want to have a look at the &lt;STRONG&gt;Wireless Config Analyzer&amp;nbsp; - WCAE&lt;/STRONG&gt; and or the &lt;STRONG&gt;Wireless Lan Config Analyzer (WLCCA)&lt;/STRONG&gt;. Have your configuration analyzed, &lt;EM&gt;check advisories and or correct errors :&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://developer.cisco.com/docs/wireless-troubleshooting-tools/#!wireless-troubleshooting-tools/wireless-troubleshooting-tools" target="_blank"&gt;https://developer.cisco.com/docs/wireless-troubleshooting-tools/#!wireless-troubleshooting-tools/wireless-troubleshooting-tools&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;M.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:00:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954606#M201778</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mark Elsen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-07T09:00:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954619#M201779</link>
      <description>And what firmware are the Intel 9560 running on?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:18:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954619#M201779</guid>
      <dc:creator>Leo Laohoo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-07T09:18:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954628#M201780</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.cisco.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/326026"&gt;@Leo Laohoo&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Intel 21.20.1.1 from 5/30/2019&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 09:33:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954628#M201780</guid>
      <dc:creator>slyfox</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-07T09:33:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954647#M201781</link>
      <description>Try the latest driver, 21.50.X.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 10:22:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954647#M201781</guid>
      <dc:creator>Leo Laohoo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-07T10:22:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954665#M201782</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.cisco.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/326026"&gt;@Leo Laohoo&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;didn't help&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;what ERRORS at event log can mean ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 10:56:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3954665#M201782</guid>
      <dc:creator>slyfox</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-07T10:56:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3955112#M201783</link>
      <description>Do a "debug client &amp;lt;MAC ADDRESS&amp;gt;" and log it. &lt;BR /&gt;What happens, with the debug enabled, and this issue occurs?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2019 20:58:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3955112#M201783</guid>
      <dc:creator>Leo Laohoo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-07T20:58:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3956597#M201784</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello &lt;a href="https://community.cisco.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/326026"&gt;@Leo Laohoo&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;debug info attached&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2019 11:09:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3956597#M201784</guid>
      <dc:creator>slyfox</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-11T11:09:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3956835#M201785</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I've had a look and I don't see any issues with this debug. &lt;BR /&gt;The debug starts at "12:59:48.549" and by "12:59:48.583" the client got an IP address of "10.84.150.205". &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Please expand, with more details, what issue(s) are observe when this happens?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Do the wireless clients get a yellow "!"?&amp;nbsp; Did the wireless clients loose wireless network?&amp;nbsp; Did the wireless clients lost access to a certain DB?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:03:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3956835#M201785</guid>
      <dc:creator>Leo Laohoo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-11T21:03:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957006#M201786</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello &lt;a href="https://community.cisco.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/326026"&gt;@Leo Laohoo&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Client experience high level packet drops. It can begin as unexpectedly as it ends.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;without any kind of OS changes, on the hotspot from the phone at the same time, there are no problems.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2019 06:09:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957006#M201786</guid>
      <dc:creator>slyfox</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-12T06:09:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957023#M201787</link>
      <description>Can you replicate the issue (ping drops) with, say, a smart phone?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2019 06:57:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957023#M201787</guid>
      <dc:creator>Leo Laohoo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-12T06:57:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957189#M201788</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello &lt;a href="https://community.cisco.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/326026"&gt;@Leo Laohoo&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2019 12:13:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957189#M201788</guid>
      <dc:creator>slyfox</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-12T12:13:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957558#M201789</link>
      <description>So with a smartphone, the ping drops doesn't occur.  Is that correct?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2019 21:04:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957558#M201789</guid>
      <dc:creator>Leo Laohoo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-12T21:04:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957864#M201790</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;mobile devices connect only to the guest network and are not the main business devices. Since I can’t repeat the problem even on a usually PC, I can’t say that there are no problems on the mobile.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A mobile device can use the GSM connection automatically if there is no connection via a wi-fi network without notifying the user.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:39:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957864#M201790</guid>
      <dc:creator>slyfox</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-13T10:39:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957897#M201791</link>
      <description>You need to test with other devices and isolate if the issue is with a device with the same NIC or not. If that is the case, then it’s a driver issue. We have seen things like that in the past and you have to wait until another version is available.  If this happens to all your devices, then it’s probably an issue with the code or your configuration.  Create a test ssid that is basic, open, then pSK then 802.11x and see if one works and others don’t. This way you can probably reproduce the issue and you have isolated the issue further. &lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:53:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3957897#M201791</guid>
      <dc:creator>Scott Fella</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-13T11:53:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Unclear wireless clients behavior</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3958254#M201792</link>
      <description>Test the smart phones with the wireless. &lt;BR /&gt;If the issue cannot be replicated with the smart phone, tablet or any other wireless client, then everything points to the wireless driver (just as Scott has said).</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2019 21:32:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/unclear-wireless-clients-behavior/m-p/3958254#M201792</guid>
      <dc:creator>Leo Laohoo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-13T21:32:33Z</dc:date>
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