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    <title>topic Re: Replacement test controller in Wireless</title>
    <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313822#M227694</link>
    <description>I guess the main differences are the ones mentioned here: &lt;A href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/release/notes/crn810mr5.html#key-features-not-supported-wlcs" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/release/notes/crn810mr5.html#key-features-not-supported-wlcs&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So if you use any of those key features, you could not test them on the other controller, but reading this list, you shouldn't be impacted at all. There will be tiny other differences, but nothing that should have a large impact.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2021 13:49:57 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>patoberli</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-03-25T13:49:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Replacement test controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313191#M227659</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Current setup:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2 x&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;WLC&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;8540 in HA SSO, s/w 8.5.140.0&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2 x&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;WLC&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;8510 in HA SSO, s/w 8.5.140.0 (test&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;infrastructure&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2,400+ APs with a mix of 1700s, 2700s, 2800s, 1815s&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Software maintenance support for&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;v&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;ersion 8.5 release ends on December 30, 2021.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;W&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;e would like to upgrade our production controller&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;s&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;(WLC8540s)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;and all our APs, this summer,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;to the&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;Cisco suggested&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;version&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;8.10.142.0&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;(all APs appear to support the software).&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Before upgrading our&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;WLC&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;APs,&amp;nbsp;w&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;e generally upgrade ou&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;r&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;test controller&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;and a cross section of APs&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;test&amp;nbsp;a&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;number&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;wireless&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;se&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;rvi&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;c&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;es&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;and client&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;types&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;. H&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;owever&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;our&amp;nbsp;WLC8510&amp;nbsp;test controllers only supports up to version 8.5.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;T&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;he only controllers that&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;support version 8.10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;are&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;3504&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;5520&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;8540&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;We are considering purchasing a smaller&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;controller, such as the 3504, for the purposes of testing the new software&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;with our WLC, APS and clients.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Does anyone&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;see any&amp;nbsp;potential problems doing this? Any limitations&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;using the smaller controllers for testing?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;All suggestions and opinions welcome.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Thank&amp;nbsp;you&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2021 20:02:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313191#M227659</guid>
      <dc:creator>CiaranB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-07-05T20:02:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Replacement test controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313447#M227666</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That should be a reasonable approach, but I will check the price of the single controller of 8540 - so it matches your production environment.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;anyway, the kit going to the end of life, personally don't like to invest in HA, you only looking for compatible AP support and testing the code. so check single 8540 refurbished or used one for testing, once you happy to apply the same theory on Live production one,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;make sense?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 22:07:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313447#M227666</guid>
      <dc:creator>balaji.bandi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-24T22:07:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Replacement test controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313790#M227686</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for getting back to me. Obviously a test 8540 would be the preferred option but buying an 8540, refurb'd or otherwise, presents it's own problems for us. That's why I was curious to see if there was any obvious&amp;nbsp; issues using the smaller entry level 3504.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2021 13:05:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313790#M227686</guid>
      <dc:creator>CiaranB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-25T13:05:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Replacement test controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313801#M227691</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm doing the same. Primary are two 5520, test setup is a 3504. In this case, both models are the same hardware generation. I think the 8540 is actually an older generation than the 3504, not sure how identical the software is. But nearly all features should be the same on both models.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2021 13:22:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313801#M227691</guid>
      <dc:creator>patoberli</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-25T13:22:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Replacement test controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313822#M227694</link>
      <description>I guess the main differences are the ones mentioned here: &lt;A href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/release/notes/crn810mr5.html#key-features-not-supported-wlcs" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/release/notes/crn810mr5.html#key-features-not-supported-wlcs&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So if you use any of those key features, you could not test them on the other controller, but reading this list, you shouldn't be impacted at all. There will be tiny other differences, but nothing that should have a large impact.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2021 13:49:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313822#M227694</guid>
      <dc:creator>patoberli</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-25T13:49:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Replacement test controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313829#M227697</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for you help!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2021 13:58:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313829#M227697</guid>
      <dc:creator>CiaranB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-25T13:58:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Replacement test controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313841#M227700</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'd say Balaji's advice is best.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I haven't worked with 3504 but I believe it's different hardware to 5520/8540.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5520 is built on C220M4 UCS server and 8540 is built on C240M4 UCS server so they're fundamentally very similar.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:24:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313841#M227700</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rich R</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-25T14:24:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Replacement test controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313873#M227704</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I guess the closer to the actually live environment you can get it, the better. The 3504 would allow us to upgrade a cross section of the APs to the new software and test some of our wireless services, but the 5520, being more similar hardware to the 8540, would be preferable overall.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks everyone for your input.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2021 15:13:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/replacement-test-controller/m-p/4313873#M227704</guid>
      <dc:creator>CiaranB</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-25T15:13:31Z</dc:date>
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