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    <title>topic Re: Cisco Router C1111 - Embedded Wireless Controller in Wireless</title>
    <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4950218#M262266</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Aha despite what the GUI calls it that is Mobility Express not EWC although technically Mobility Express is a type of EWC!&lt;BR /&gt;ME runs a cut down version of AireOS so your latest release is&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://software.cisco.com/download/home/286315006/type/286289839/release/8.10.190.0" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://software.cisco.com/download/home/286315006/type/286289839/release/8.10.190.0&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I haven't worked with that model specifically but the built-in AP usually has internal interfaces joining the router switch module to the AP so they are 2 separate units in 1 enclosure with a built-in connection.&amp;nbsp; They also usually have a console connection via a reverse telnet port which you can access with the hw-module session command and there may be a default vlan configured for direct IP access to the AP.&amp;nbsp; 192.168.1.0/24 is the default subnet used by the ME on startup.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Check:&lt;BR /&gt;sh platform&lt;BR /&gt;show int desc&lt;BR /&gt;show ip int brief&lt;BR /&gt;show ip route&lt;BR /&gt;show arp&lt;BR /&gt;You're sure to find more info on the 192.168.1.5 in those.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So the GUI is quite possibly using one of those internal connections to connect to the ME AP.&lt;BR /&gt;If you do a "show tcp brief" while it's trying to connect you may see what source and destination IP and port it's trying to connect on.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So you might not have realised but there are interfaces between the router and AP and they could have ACLs on them - I was just suggesting to check them.&amp;nbsp; If it's using a VTY for that connection then the VTY ACL could come into play too.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You're accessing AP web and ssh from an external IP routed to the configured IP on the AP.&amp;nbsp; The router GUI will be connecting from a local router IP to the same or different destination IP on the AP.&amp;nbsp; Check that routing, ACLs (firewall if you have it configured), ARP etc are all working for that connection.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Some more info on the platform:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.itnetworks.com.au/blog/cisco-isr-1100-internal-wap/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://www.itnetworks.com.au/blog/cisco-isr-1100-internal-wap/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/access/isr1100/software/configuration/xe-17/isr1100-sw-config-xe-17/configuring_wlan.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/access/isr1100/software/configuration/xe-17/isr1100-sw-config-xe-17/configuring_wlan.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2023 13:23:16 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Rich R</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-10-29T13:23:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Cisco Router C1111 - Embedded Wireless Controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4949904#M262234</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, i have a cisco c1111-8p and i am trying to access the AP Controller from the Web Gui of the Cisco router,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="diogobranco_0-1698433026355.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.cisco.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/201110iE1018E25EF22933C/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="diogobranco_0-1698433026355.png" alt="diogobranco_0-1698433026355.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i put the credentials to access the controller statistics but it stays in this infinite mode,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="diogobranco_1-1698433140708.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.cisco.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/201112iAE112D3D5411DEEC/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="diogobranco_1-1698433140708.png" alt="diogobranco_1-1698433140708.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;what i am missing here?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note: i can access the ap controller via web mode and ssh mode&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards, Diogo.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2023 19:03:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4949904#M262234</guid>
      <dc:creator>diogobranco</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-10-27T19:03:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cisco Router C1111 - Embedded Wireless Controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4949966#M262237</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have no idea how that is supposed to work but first make sure the router and EWC code are up to date - think 17.9.4a on both&lt;BR /&gt;Then check ACLs in case you have something blocking communication between the router and the AP.&lt;BR /&gt;And run packet captures and debug on both of them to try to work out how they're trying to communicate and why it isn't working.&lt;BR /&gt;Enabling network trace (F12 or CTRL+CHIFT+I) in your browser might also give you some clue as to what is happening.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2023 23:17:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4949966#M262237</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rich R</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-10-27T23:17:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cisco Router C1111 - Embedded Wireless Controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4950063#M262246</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, Rich this is a Wireless Embedded controller on the router it is the same equipment there is no acls between them, one strange thing that i see is this ip 192.168.1.5 on the show users command line,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="diogobranco_0-1698502433970.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.cisco.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/201145i86EE22AFE1664AEA/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="diogobranco_0-1698502433970.png" alt="diogobranco_0-1698502433970.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That network does not exist, and appears to be the default network when the router is factory default&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The version that i have in the cisco router is the latest 17.9.4a the embedded wireless controller is&amp;nbsp;ISR-AP1100AC-ME-8-10-185-0.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards, Diogo.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:17:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4950063#M262246</guid>
      <dc:creator>diogobranco</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-10-28T14:17:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cisco Router C1111 - Embedded Wireless Controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4950218#M262266</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Aha despite what the GUI calls it that is Mobility Express not EWC although technically Mobility Express is a type of EWC!&lt;BR /&gt;ME runs a cut down version of AireOS so your latest release is&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://software.cisco.com/download/home/286315006/type/286289839/release/8.10.190.0" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://software.cisco.com/download/home/286315006/type/286289839/release/8.10.190.0&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I haven't worked with that model specifically but the built-in AP usually has internal interfaces joining the router switch module to the AP so they are 2 separate units in 1 enclosure with a built-in connection.&amp;nbsp; They also usually have a console connection via a reverse telnet port which you can access with the hw-module session command and there may be a default vlan configured for direct IP access to the AP.&amp;nbsp; 192.168.1.0/24 is the default subnet used by the ME on startup.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Check:&lt;BR /&gt;sh platform&lt;BR /&gt;show int desc&lt;BR /&gt;show ip int brief&lt;BR /&gt;show ip route&lt;BR /&gt;show arp&lt;BR /&gt;You're sure to find more info on the 192.168.1.5 in those.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So the GUI is quite possibly using one of those internal connections to connect to the ME AP.&lt;BR /&gt;If you do a "show tcp brief" while it's trying to connect you may see what source and destination IP and port it's trying to connect on.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So you might not have realised but there are interfaces between the router and AP and they could have ACLs on them - I was just suggesting to check them.&amp;nbsp; If it's using a VTY for that connection then the VTY ACL could come into play too.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You're accessing AP web and ssh from an external IP routed to the configured IP on the AP.&amp;nbsp; The router GUI will be connecting from a local router IP to the same or different destination IP on the AP.&amp;nbsp; Check that routing, ACLs (firewall if you have it configured), ARP etc are all working for that connection.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Some more info on the platform:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.itnetworks.com.au/blog/cisco-isr-1100-internal-wap/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://www.itnetworks.com.au/blog/cisco-isr-1100-internal-wap/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/access/isr1100/software/configuration/xe-17/isr1100-sw-config-xe-17/configuring_wlan.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/access/isr1100/software/configuration/xe-17/isr1100-sw-config-xe-17/configuring_wlan.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2023 13:23:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4950218#M262266</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rich R</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-10-29T13:23:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cisco Router C1111 - Embedded Wireless Controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4957511#M262867</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, this is a mystery to me, when i execute the command show tcp brief this is the output:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="diogobranco_0-1699792773317.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.cisco.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/202201i3A19DB2F51409A9A/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="diogobranco_0-1699792773317.png" alt="diogobranco_0-1699792773317.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The address 192.168.1.6 and 1.5 does not exist in the network i have no vlan or interface with this range of ip address's.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My wireless lan interface as no ip address assign:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="diogobranco_1-1699793006971.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.cisco.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/202202iCEBE99BF835B60BB/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="diogobranco_1-1699793006971.png" alt="diogobranco_1-1699793006971.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;the configuration of that interface is this:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;interface Wlan-GigabitEthernet0/1/8&lt;BR /&gt;switchport trunk native vlan 55&lt;BR /&gt;switchport trunk allowed vlan 15,25,40,55&lt;BR /&gt;switchport mode trunk&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The Ap Embbeded controller as the address 192.168.55.10.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Maybe this some kind of bug or something that i cannot understand.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards, Diogo.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:59:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4957511#M262867</guid>
      <dc:creator>diogobranco</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-12T12:59:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cisco Router C1111 - Embedded Wireless Controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4957535#M262873</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As I said these are &lt;STRONG&gt;INTERNAL&lt;/STRONG&gt; interfaces - built into the IOS - to provide a direct connection between the router and the AP. They are probably in a separate VRF so should not interfere with your own standard routing table/network.&lt;BR /&gt;It is not a bug - it's the way Cisco designed the connection between router and AP.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:54:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4957535#M262873</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rich R</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-12T14:54:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cisco Router C1111 - Embedded Wireless Controller</title>
      <link>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4960992#M263024</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;ok Rich you are probably right with that assumption. if you notice from this screenshoot,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="diogobranco_0-1700162691031.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.cisco.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/202700i897503A952AD5F68/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="diogobranco_0-1700162691031.png" alt="diogobranco_0-1700162691031.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;they are tell me to have the controller login prompt as "User"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have execute the command hw-module session 0/3 endpoint 0, that drops to the prompt "User:" when i "click here" in the web gui page&amp;nbsp; it stays in this way,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="diogobranco_1-1700163008612.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.cisco.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/202701iF4396A2CD7067278/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="diogobranco_1-1700163008612.png" alt="diogobranco_1-1700163008612.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and in the hw-module session return to the cisco router prompt.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="diogobranco_2-1700163074377.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.cisco.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/202702iD65A93AEB39B54F4/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="diogobranco_2-1700163074377.png" alt="diogobranco_2-1700163074377.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;the output of show users,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="diogobranco_3-1700163168776.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.cisco.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/202703i56D29CFE12B6E10F/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="diogobranco_3-1700163168776.png" alt="diogobranco_3-1700163168776.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i have to execute clear line vty 1 to clear that user.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The output of show tcp brief,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="diogobranco_4-1700163265915.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.cisco.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/202704i5212074475FBF326/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="diogobranco_4-1700163265915.png" alt="diogobranco_4-1700163265915.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2023 19:34:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/cisco-router-c1111-embedded-wireless-controller/m-p/4960992#M263024</guid>
      <dc:creator>diogobranco</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-16T19:34:52Z</dc:date>
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