topic Re: Does APs needs to communicate on Layer2 in Wireless

Does APs needs to communicate on Layer2

Gucamole — Fri, 24 May 2024 13:54:23 GMT

We are working on blocking communication within the same VLAN, so two hosts on the same VLAN will not be able to communicate with each other.

We have many access points (APs) on a single VLAN. Do the APs need to communicate with each other(layer2)? If so, for what purpose?

Can someone confirm?

Re: Does APs needs to communicate on Layer2

ww^ — Fri, 24 May 2024 14:39:20 GMT

I think they should on the management vlan. For example for client balancing.

https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/Other_Topics/Client_Balancing

For wireless you could just set Layer2 isolation on a ssid

https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/Firewall_and_Traffic_Shaping/Wireless_Client_Isolation

Re: Does APs needs to communicate on Layer2

Gucamole — Fri, 24 May 2024 15:04:01 GMT

Yes I can do that but I want to understand what are the use cases where APs needs to communicate with each other on layer 2.

Like do they need to communicate for RF changes, client roaming, broadcast, multicast etc? That's what I am trying to understand.

Re: Does APs needs to communicate on Layer2

aleabrahao — Fri, 24 May 2024 15:35:30 GMT

Open a support case.

Re: Does APs needs to communicate on Layer2

Gucamole — Fri, 24 May 2024 15:40:31 GMT

LOL what a helpful response. Support is going to say we are break-fix so reach out to your SE.

Well looks like time to post on Reddit wireless group.

Re: Does APs needs to communicate on Layer2

aleabrahao — Fri, 24 May 2024 15:54:06 GMT

APs on the same VLAN do not necessarily need to communicate with each other directly. Each AP communicates with the devices connected to it and forwards that traffic to the network’s router or switch. The router or switch then handles the distribution of traffic to other APs or devices on the network.

Re: Does APs needs to communicate on Layer2

Gucamole — Fri, 24 May 2024 16:15:54 GMT

Thanks.

What about client roaming like using fast-roaming 802.11r. When a client moves from AP1 to AP2, how do Aps handoff the info such as authentication etc ? Does this happens just over the Air without needing to traverse the switch they are connected to?

How do APs create a Mesh? Does it happen over the Air or Layer 2 communication via switch.

I need to understand if this happens directly over the Air or the frame comes into the switch they are connected and then goes out to another AP.

Re: Does APs needs to communicate on Layer2

aleabrahao — Fri, 24 May 2024 16:25:38 GMT

I really recommend that you read this document, it's a good read and will save me time explaining.

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/technotes/80211r-ft/b-80211r-dg.html

Re: Does APs needs to communicate on Layer2

aleabrahao — Fri, 24 May 2024 16:34:53 GMT

https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/Wi-Fi_Basics_and_Best_Practices/Wireless_Mesh_Networking

Re: Does APs needs to communicate on Layer2

Philip D'Ath — Sun, 26 May 2024 20:14:39 GMT

APs on the same VLAN exchanging client roaming information with each other. I think it is done using multicast (not sure).

Also if you are using the L3 roaming mode they forward the packets between APs using unicast.