topic Re: LAP / Controller Compatibility Question in Wireless

LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

bonedaddy76 — Sun, 04 Jul 2021 04:02:48 GMT

Our company recently inheritated a group of locations that have Nortel 2270 WLC's with Cisco firmware and have a mixture of 1010 and 1030 LAP's. We are trying to map out an upgrade path for them but I am having difficulty getting the following information, even directly from Cisco. So I was hoping someone on here can help me answer the following questions:

1. Does the 2270 WLC support any other model of Cisco LAP other than the 1010 and 1030?

2. Will a newer controller, say a 2100 or 4400, be compatible with the 1010 and 1030 LAPs already at these locations?

3. Is there anywhere I can find a list of Cisco controllers (EOL and otherwise) and what LAPs they support?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Re: LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

Scott Fella — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:39:01 GMT

Both the 2100 and 4400 is EOL/EOS. You need either the 5608 or 2504 WLC.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps6302/ps8322/ps6366/end_of_life_notice_c51-634665.pdf

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps6302/ps8322/ps6366/end_of_life_notice_c51-624769_ps7206_Products_End-of-Life_Notice.html

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Re: LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

Scott Fella — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:45:30 GMT

What version of Cisco firmware are you running. The 7.x does not support your AP's.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/release/notes/crn7_0_116_0.html

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Re: LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

Scott Fella — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:58:00 GMT

If you plan on keeping those AP's then you will need to get a wlc that can run the 4.x code. Those AP's are EOL also.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5678/ps6306/prod_end-of-life_notice0900aecd805ee610.html

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LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

bonedaddy76 — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:59:02 GMT

First off, thanks for EOL update.

The current firmware on the WLCs on the properties is 3.2.215.0, but again these are actually Nortel devices loaded with Cisco firmware. Not quite sure how this happened, but I know Cisco bought up Nortel's WLC, so maybe they made a firmware release for it. Either way, the properties are all running at least one of these WLCs. I know these controllers work fine with the 1010 and 1030 LAP's, but I was hoping that maybe they would work with newer LAP's and/or perhaps have a newer firmware available that would allow newer AP support.

LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

chavilla — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:20:25 GMT

The 1030 or 1000 series access point is still compatible with other Cisco WLC (2100, 4400, 5500) as long as the release is NOT 5.0.148.0 or later.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/release/notes/crn7.0.html

Re: LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

Scott Fella — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:32:00 GMT

Correct... But you can't load 4.x on a 5500, but you can on the 2100 and 4400.

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LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

bonedaddy76 — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:42:21 GMT

OK, thanks, this is helping a bit so far. Looking at the release notes for the current firmware on the WLC, it seems like it supports 1000, 1130, 1200, 1240, and 1500. Kind of odd that the 1100 is not here either. I suppose this would mean the the 2270 would support the newer LAPs then if its running that firmware? I am still a bit confused on how a Nortel is running Cisco firmware or if I could possibly update it to a newer version to get some more support.

Re: LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

Scott Fella — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:54:31 GMT

That is really old code and I bet that the newer code isn't supported.

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LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

bonedaddy76 — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:08:53 GMT

You are probably right but being as this old code is supposedly supporting the 1130, a newer AP, and not the 1100 and older AP, doesnt that seem strange? That would mean that it should work with the 1130 AG series?

Re: LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

Scott Fella — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:14:01 GMT

Why not replace the AP's and utilize AP's that support 802.11n and or clean air technology.

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LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

chavilla — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:14:32 GMT

Yes, the 1130AG is compatible with 2270 though you need to upgrade the controller to it's latest version of code.

LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

chavilla — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:17:06 GMT

That is the best recommendation since there is no guarantee that TAC will support any troubleshooting steps using the 2270.

LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

bonedaddy76 — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:22:39 GMT

The plan is to eventually get there with all new equipment, but these properties are asking if we can do this in steps instead of one big roll out to help with their budget and we trying to facilitate. I just don't want to sell a property 35 new AP's and have it not work with the controller or a new controller that wont work the AP's they currently have.

Re: LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

Scott Fella — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:13:31 GMT

I wouldn't try to migrate that way. If your looking for an upgrade path, I would invest in a 5508 and migrate one site at a time using the 3502's in H-reap mode sine they are remote sites an doing a site survey.

If you plan to go the 1130 route, then get one and make sure it works before you start purchasing a whole bunch. I don't see what you will be gaining anyways since your still using 802.11a and 802.11b/g.

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Re: LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

bonedaddy76 — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:04:41 GMT

I'd love to take that path, unfortunately these are hotels that we are dealing with and they require that we use certain devices to meet their standards. The 5500 and 3500 are not on their list. Though I feel with the 2100 and 4400 going EOL, they are going to need to update their list soon.

Re: LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

Scott Fella — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:18:28 GMT

I understand... But unless you try to do a POC, I would not know if what you want to do will work. It seems like if you do go that route, you will end up spending more money later and them also replacing the 1130's. I don't like to take risk and if the system is working, then you might as well leave until equipment gets approved and you have your budget.

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Re: LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

bonedaddy76 — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:56:40 GMT

I would not sell then anything without testing. Right now my list of usable Cisco includes the 2100, 4400 WLC and the 1100, 1200, 1130, and 1240 AP's. Quite antiquated and limited, for sure. I fully agree with you that they may be re-purchasing down the line. I appreciate the suggestions, and we can try to get exceptions, i'm just trying to work with what I have right now.

LAP / Controller Compatibility Question

Leo Laohoo — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:32:25 GMT

I wouldn't recommend the 2100 nor 2500 in a production network > 12 WAPs. One of my pet peeves for the newer 2500 is the lack of LAG.

Here's your problem: You have a Nortel WLC running Cisco 3.X code. This means that you have no choice but to run old WAPs of the 1000-series. This also means that your client cannot run newer APs. I'm not sure if the 1130 is supported in this code. So which basically boils down to this: Your client cannot get additional WAPs from Cisco. HOWEVER, if your client goes to the Cisco Refurbished program, they MIGHT be able to find some.

Another thing I'm curious are:

1. What are you or your client trying to do; and

2. What's the budget?