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After Prime Collaboration gone EOS, how many applications are available for C220M?

Expressway-c and Expressway-E are included or are available as a separate .ova format?

Any consolidated implementation and configurational document for BE6k along with ISR 4XXX routers and Expressway -C and expressway-E?

How can we design BE6K + ISR 4xxx + Expressway-c & E within a same building but different data centers as fully HA format?any relevant CVD?

 

 

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  • Data sheet link attached below please have a look. 

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/business-edition-6000/data_sheet_c78-717454.html

 

  • BE6k Will be shipped with required  ISO &OVA. if you need the latest you may need to download it. 
  • you can go through, Preferred Architecture for Cisco Collaboration 12.x Enterprise On-Premises Deployments, CVD

 

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/solutions/CVD/Collaboration/enterprise/12x/120/collbcvd/control.html

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Effected part number under this EOL annoucement  and the replacement part number mentioned below. 12.6 is the replacement version and there is no end of sale announced for this version.

 

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Two servers.

 

This is the top level part number for be6k>>>.BE6M-M5-K9

This is the Smartnet >>>CON-SNT-BE6MM5K9



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This it the default configurations when u select a BE6K part number and on CCW we have only option to change the VMware license and Power code line item only. By default only 3 RAM will be included. 

 

Screen Shot 2020-08-10 at 7.30.28 PM.png

 

No Memory Mirroring option is available  with the default. if you look in to the table you need min of 4 RAM to use Memory Mirroring. you need to order extra RAM separately if you need to use Memory Mirroring. 

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you can use below link to access the Cisco Virtual Machine placement tool and have a look on Sizing. 

https://ucs.cloudapps.cisco.com

 

This is the replacement for VMPT tool and I never worked on it. you can also try on this new platfrom .

https://cqc.cloudapps.cisco.com/serveronly#/

 

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Total number of available ports per virtual machine: Voice + TTS  + Voice recognition for BE6K is 24.

 

Total number of available ports in a cluster BE6K 48. 

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/connection/11x/supported_platforms/b_11xcucspl.html

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By default you get 2 Speech connect license. 

UCXN-12X-SCPORTSBE6000 Unity Connection 12x - VM Speech Connect Ports2

 

Speech Connect

Unity Connection includes a speech-enabled enhancement to the automated attendant functionality, called Speech Connect. Speech Connect uses voice-enabled directory handlers that allow both employees and outside callers can say the name of an employee and instantly be connected, without having to navigate an audio-text tree, and without knowing the extension of the employee. For easy access for employees, you can configure a Speech Connect speed dial on user phones.

If multiple employees have the same name or if Speech Connect does not have a perfect match for the name spoken by the caller, it presents numerous name choices for the caller and can include additional information such as the employee location or department.

For detailed information about setting up directory handlers, see the “Directory Handlers” section of the “Call Management” chapter of the System Administration Guide for Cisco Unity Connection Release 12.x, at https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/connection/12x/administration/guide/b_12xcucsag.html.

 

you can configure two Speech Connect Ports on unity.

 

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with default, I can configure two speech connect port and if used, in use will change to 2 port. voicemail ports are not licensed. it depend  on the platform(my earlier post). 

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You can use Be6K for installing Unified Attendant Console advanced. you need to size it properly. you  can use the tools which I shared before to size VM's.Screen Shot 2020-08-11 at 5.39.34 PM.png



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choose of VCS or for CUCM version 11.x TP-Room License means,  you can register MX 800(I believe u are using MX as VC end Point) on CUCM and TP room license will be utilized by CUCM or on expressway C server using LIC-EXP-ROOM license.

 

when you purchase TP-Room license you also get LIC-EXP-ROOM which is free. If you need to register MX-800 on VCS you can use LIC-EXP-ROOM license on expressway C. 



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The maximum call supported depend  on the platform. so u should check your requirement and chose the right platform.  The below link will give you more informations.

Virtualization for Cisco Meeting Server

 

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/uc_system/virtualization/virtualization-cisco-meeting-server.htmlScreen Shot 2020-08-12 at 3.32.46 PM.png



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Both cards support Voice.

 

In addition to the basic T1/E1 data support, the CE1T1 versions also support structured G.703 with G.704 framing and unstructured E1 (G.703) applications.

 

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/4000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/qa_c67-728823.html

 

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You  can do clustering over the Wan, but you need to consider below prerequisites. And you need to make sure all required ports are opened through the wan. if you meet all prerequisites, switch over will be same. 

 

if your TSP supports, you can have HA on PRI, and it should be done  by TSP. 

 

 

https://www.ciscopress.com/articles/article.asp?p=2743756&seqNum=6

Port Usage

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/12_0_1/systemConfig/cucm_b_system-configuration-guide-1201/cucm_b_system-configuration-guide-1201_chapter_01010110.html

Clustering over the IP WAN

Cisco supports CUCM clustered over an IP WAN. Figure 2-7 shows the publisher and two subscribers at one location while another pair of subscribers from the same cluster resides at a different location. The QoS-enabled IP WAN connects the two sites. Note the requirement of a round trip time less than 80 ms between the sites. This requirement is in support of database replication occurring between the publisher and all the subscribers in the cluster.

 

 

Figure 2-7 Clustering over the WAN

Some of the characteristics of this model include:

  • Applications and CUCM servers of the same cluster can be distributed over the IP WAN.
  • The IP WAN carries intracluster server communication and signaling.
  • Limited number of sites:
    • Two to four sites for local failover (two CUCM servers per site)
    • Up to eight sites for remote failover across the IP WAN (one CUCM server per site).

The cluster design is useful for customers who require more functionality than the limited feature set that is offered by Cisco Unified SRST. This network design also allows remote offices to support more IP phones than SRST if the connection to the primary CUCM is lost.

Design Guidelines for Clustering over WAN Deployment Model

Although the distributed single-cluster call-processing model offers some significant advantages, it must adhere to these strict design guidelines:

  • Two CUCM servers in a cluster must have a maximum round-trip delay of 80 ms between them. Because of this strict guideline, this design can be used only between closely connected, high-speed locations.
  • A minimum of 1.544 Mbps (T1) of bandwidth is required for Intra-Cluster Communication Signaling (ICCS) between each site and every other site that is clustered over the WAN. This bandwidth supports up to 10,000 busy hour call attempts (BHCAs) within the cluster. The BHCA represents the number of call attempts that are made during the busiest hour of the day.
  • In addition to the bandwidth required for ICCS traffic, a minimum of 1.544 Mbps (T1) of bandwidth is required for database and other inter-server traffic between the publisher and every subscriber node within the cluster.
  • Up to eight small sites are supported using the remote failover deployment model. Remote failover allows you to deploy one server per location. (A maximum of eight call-processing servers are supported in a cluster.) If CUCM fails, IP phones register to another server over the WAN. Therefore, Cisco Unified SRST is not required in this deployment model (although it is supported). The remote failover design may require significant additional bandwidth, depending on the number of telephones at each location.

 

 



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This round trip delay 80 ms threshold is default/fix or we can change this threshold to prevent frequent splitting in between Publisher & Subscriber? This is the recommended round trip delay between publisher and subscriber to avoid db replication issues  when u do the  clustering through WAN.  This value is  not a setting on CUCM. 

 

subscriber to publisher, every configuration that have been made on subscriber will be shown/implement on publisher after coming back or we need to reconfigure on publisher..? its   recommended to make configurations changes on publisher. what ever configurations you make on publisher will be replicated to subscriber if DB replication is good. if publisher is down you cannot make any administrative changes  Only end user facing features can be modified.

 

 

 

 



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1- Is Cisco BE6k gives application base redundancy?  if publisher goes down phone will work with subscriber(based on configuration) and vice versa. if publisher goes down u can make limited changes from subscriber  until the publisher is up.

2- (2 xBE6k & 2 xISR 4431 is the number devices) In case of Publisher failure then ISR 4431 router will work as a phone registrar with SRST or Subscriber will be take over as a redundant? and what is recommended scenario? That's based on your configuration. Normally we configure the  phones to fallback on subscriber. In case of both publisher and subscriber down and for added  redundancy u can think of SRST on router.

 

3- Which interfaces are involved OR recommended for ISR 4431 to configure HA? either to use "NIM-1GE-CU-SFP" OR we can use LAN ports via L3?

 

when u think VG Redundancy, your ISP should also do HA. example  if you have two PRI and one PRI connected on each gateway, in this case ISP should send calls on both the PRI. second case if you have only one PRI, u need to manually shift the lines.



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  • Data sheet link attached below please have a look. 

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/business-edition-6000/data_sheet_c78-717454.html

 

  • BE6k Will be shipped with required  ISO &OVA. if you need the latest you may need to download it. 
  • you can go through, Preferred Architecture for Cisco Collaboration 12.x Enterprise On-Premises Deployments, CVD

 

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/solutions/CVD/Collaboration/enterprise/12x/120/collbcvd/control.html

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Hi Nittin,

I am very thankful for quick reply and almost very informative but one of my question is still standing there, i am going to share below link and what's next after Prime collaboration as EOS.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/cloud-systems-management/prime-collaboration/eos-eol-notice-c51-741747.html

 

Effected part number under this EOL annoucement  and the replacement part number mentioned below. 12.6 is the replacement version and there is no end of sale announced for this version.

 

Screen Shot 2020-08-10 at 2.52.01 PM.png

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Nithin,

 

According to below BOQ, can you please confirm how many servers i have in it?

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BE6M-M5-K9Cisco Business Edition 6000M (M5) Appliance, Export Restr SW2
CON-SNT-BE6MM5K9SNTC-8X5XNBD Cisco Business Edition 6000M (M5) Applia2
BE6K-PSUCisco UCS 770W AC Power Supply for Rack Server2
BE6K-RAIDCTRLRCisco 12G Modular RAID controller with 2GB cache2
BE6K-DISK300GB 12G SAS 10K RPM SFF HDD12
R2XX-RAID5Enable RAID 5 Setting2
BE6K-RAM16GB DDR4-2666-MHz RDIMM/PC4-21300/single rank/x4/1.2v6
BE6K-CPU2.2 GHz 4114/85W 10C/13.75MB Cache/DDR4 2400MHz2
CAB-9K10A-UKPower Cord, 250VAC 10A BS1363 Plug (13 A fuse), UK2
VMW-VS6-HYPPLS-K9Embedded License, Cisco UC Virt. Hypervisor Plus 6.x (2-cpu)2

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Two servers.

 

This is the top level part number for be6k>>>.BE6M-M5-K9

This is the Smartnet >>>CON-SNT-BE6MM5K9



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Nithin,

 

little bit confused with the distribution of RAM as mention in below document. can you please brief the mirroring.

i have confusion that according to above mention BOQ two server's RAM quantity (6/2=3), is sufficient as i am looking DIMM mirroring on this Doc? May you please elaborate it.

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/servers-unified-computing/ucs-c-series-rack-servers/c220m5-sff-specsheet.pdf

  

This it the default configurations when u select a BE6K part number and on CCW we have only option to change the VMware license and Power code line item only. By default only 3 RAM will be included. 

 

Screen Shot 2020-08-10 at 7.30.28 PM.png

 

No Memory Mirroring option is available  with the default. if you look in to the table you need min of 4 RAM to use Memory Mirroring. you need to order extra RAM separately if you need to use Memory Mirroring. 

Screen Shot 2020-08-10 at 7.22.03 PM.png

you can use below link to access the Cisco Virtual Machine placement tool and have a look on Sizing. 

https://ucs.cloudapps.cisco.com

 

This is the replacement for VMPT tool and I never worked on it. you can also try on this new platfrom .

https://cqc.cloudapps.cisco.com/serveronly#/

 

Screen Shot 2020-08-10 at 7.43.26 PM.png



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Hi Nithin,

 

May you please help me on below?

How many speech ports required for unity connection in a cluster using BE6k? how many concurrent calls will be entertained against 01 port? 

Total number of available ports per virtual machine: Voice + TTS  + Voice recognition for BE6K is 24.

 

Total number of available ports in a cluster BE6K 48. 

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/connection/11x/supported_platforms/b_11xcucspl.html

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Nithin,

 

I have only 02 unity connection VM speech connect ports in BOQ, which will be used for HA?

By default you get 2 Speech connect license. 

UCXN-12X-SCPORTSBE6000 Unity Connection 12x - VM Speech Connect Ports2

 

Speech Connect

Unity Connection includes a speech-enabled enhancement to the automated attendant functionality, called Speech Connect. Speech Connect uses voice-enabled directory handlers that allow both employees and outside callers can say the name of an employee and instantly be connected, without having to navigate an audio-text tree, and without knowing the extension of the employee. For easy access for employees, you can configure a Speech Connect speed dial on user phones.

If multiple employees have the same name or if Speech Connect does not have a perfect match for the name spoken by the caller, it presents numerous name choices for the caller and can include additional information such as the employee location or department.

For detailed information about setting up directory handlers, see the “Directory Handlers” section of the “Call Management” chapter of the System Administration Guide for Cisco Unity Connection Release 12.x, at https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/connection/12x/administration/guide/b_12xcucsag.html.

 

you can configure two Speech Connect Ports on unity.

 

Screen Shot 2020-08-11 at 2.31.48 PM.png

with default, I can configure two speech connect port and if used, in use will change to 2 port. voicemail ports are not licensed. it depend  on the platform(my earlier post). 

Screen Shot 2020-08-11 at 2.35.24 PM.png



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Hi Nithin,

 

please accept apology, again going to disturb you.

please confirm can we deploy  attendant console advanced within a separate machine ?however its available within BE6k.

You can use Be6K for installing Unified Attendant Console advanced. you need to size it properly. you  can use the tools which I shared before to size VM's.Screen Shot 2020-08-11 at 5.39.34 PM.png



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