08-10-2020 02:26 AM
After Prime Collaboration gone EOS, how many applications are available for C220M?
Expressway-c and Expressway-E are included or are available as a separate .ova format?
Any consolidated implementation and configurational document for BE6k along with ISR 4XXX routers and Expressway -C and expressway-E?
How can we design BE6K + ISR 4xxx + Expressway-c & E within a same building but different data centers as fully HA format?any relevant CVD?
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09-10-2020 06:05 AM
Hi Nithin,
Hope you are fine. Once again i need your help regarding HA.
Design diagram is attached here. please check and let me confirm that for HA configuration (Publisher + Subscriber) we need to connect BE6K and ISR4431 on LAN (Same Subnet) or can configure on WAN as well.
If LAN and WAN both are the possibilities for HA then what is the switch over/response time( Shifting on subscriber and revert back) in case of network failure?
Note: i will use ISDN E1/PRI for each gateway instead of SIP trunks.
09-10-2020 06:51 AM - edited 09-10-2020 06:52 AM
You can do clustering over the Wan, but you need to consider below prerequisites. And you need to make sure all required ports are opened through the wan. if you meet all prerequisites, switch over will be same.
if your TSP supports, you can have HA on PRI, and it should be done by TSP.
https://www.ciscopress.com/articles/article.asp?p=2743756&seqNum=6
Port Usage
Clustering over the IP WAN
Cisco supports CUCM clustered over an IP WAN. Figure 2-7 shows the publisher and two subscribers at one location while another pair of subscribers from the same cluster resides at a different location. The QoS-enabled IP WAN connects the two sites. Note the requirement of a round trip time less than 80 ms between the sites. This requirement is in support of database replication occurring between the publisher and all the subscribers in the cluster.
Figure 2-7 Clustering over the WAN
Some of the characteristics of this model include:
The cluster design is useful for customers who require more functionality than the limited feature set that is offered by Cisco Unified SRST. This network design also allows remote offices to support more IP phones than SRST if the connection to the primary CUCM is lost.
Design Guidelines for Clustering over WAN Deployment Model
Although the distributed single-cluster call-processing model offers some significant advantages, it must adhere to these strict design guidelines:
09-14-2020 01:00 AM
Dear Nithin,
Hope you are fine.
"Two CUCM servers in a cluster must have a maximum round-trip delay of 80 ms between them".
This round trip delay 80 ms threshold is default/fix or we can change this threshold to prevent frequent splitting in between Publisher & Subscriber? Secondly after switch back from subscriber to publisher, every configuration that have been made on subscriber will be shown/implement on publisher after coming back or we need to reconfigure on publisher..?
09-14-2020 01:24 AM - edited 09-14-2020 01:26 AM
This round trip delay 80 ms threshold is default/fix or we can change this threshold to prevent frequent splitting in between Publisher & Subscriber? This is the recommended round trip delay between publisher and subscriber to avoid db replication issues when u do the clustering through WAN. This value is not a setting on CUCM.
subscriber to publisher, every configuration that have been made on subscriber will be shown/implement on publisher after coming back or we need to reconfigure on publisher..? its recommended to make configurations changes on publisher. what ever configurations you make on publisher will be replicated to subscriber if DB replication is good. if publisher is down you cannot make any administrative changes Only end user facing features can be modified.
12-14-2020 11:24 AM
Dear Nithin,
Hope you & Your family are fine and safe during this pandemic COVID-19.
Sorry after a long time contacting with you. I need some help to find out the answer of some questions regarding BE6k & ISR4431.
1- Is Cisco BE6k gives application base redundancy? OR Only ISO/VMware base redundancy is available?
2- (2 xBE6k & 2 xISR 4431 is the number devices) In case of Publisher failure then ISR 4431 router will work as a phone registrar with SRST or Subscriber will be take over as a redundant? and what is recommended scenario?
3- Which interfaces are involved OR recommended for ISR 4431 to configure HA? either to use "NIM-1GE-CU-SFP" OR we can use LAN ports via L3?
Please answer these queries step by step. if possible please share the links as well.
12-14-2020 08:58 PM
1- Is Cisco BE6k gives application base redundancy? if publisher goes down phone will work with subscriber(based on configuration) and vice versa. if publisher goes down u can make limited changes from subscriber until the publisher is up.
2- (2 xBE6k & 2 xISR 4431 is the number devices) In case of Publisher failure then ISR 4431 router will work as a phone registrar with SRST or Subscriber will be take over as a redundant? and what is recommended scenario? That's based on your configuration. Normally we configure the phones to fallback on subscriber. In case of both publisher and subscriber down and for added redundancy u can think of SRST on router.
3- Which interfaces are involved OR recommended for ISR 4431 to configure HA? either to use "NIM-1GE-CU-SFP" OR we can use LAN ports via L3?
when u think VG Redundancy, your ISP should also do HA. example if you have two PRI and one PRI connected on each gateway, in this case ISP should send calls on both the PRI. second case if you have only one PRI, u need to manually shift the lines.
12-14-2020 09:06 PM
HI Nithin,
One more question please!
In case of only Publisher machine failure, primary gateway ISR4431 will remain operational with subscriber or gateway will also switch to secondary gateway?
12-14-2020 09:38 PM
Subscriber will handle the gateway(based on your configuration)
12-15-2020 02:09 AM
Hi Nithin,
Can you please explain, ISR 4431 router interchasis High availability? Are we use this feature in voice scenario? WAN interface will be used as a heartbeat link/control link?
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