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Cisco ISE loadbalancing with A10 loadbalancer

Is anyone in the community running multiple PSNs behind an A10 loadbalancer? There seems to be lots of documents on how to do it with F5 but not A10.  I can get so far using wireless MAB in that a wireless client will get the login portal page and a suer can login in. On the wireless controller I can see that the client gets the redirect ACL but it never gets a successful CoA to pass it to the policy ACL.

I see multiple RADIUS errors on the ISE in the live logs. It looks as though the RADIUS requests are coming from the real interface (server side) of the A10 rather than the VIP. Currently I only have one real server (PSN) configured to avoid any persistence issues.

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VIP Engager

Re: Cisco ISE loadbalancing with A10 loadbalancer

Mark,

Here you go.  I cleaned up the config and modeled it after the following fictional topology:

A10 CoA.jpg

******************************************************************************

Interface Config, need to enabled the support of a promiscuous VIP

******************************************************************************

interface ve 1/28

  name PSN Subnet

  enable

  ip address 2.2.2.1 255.255.255.0

  ip allow-promiscuous-vip


*****************************************************

NAT Pool, RADIUS VIP to change CoA to

*****************************************************

ip nat pool COA-RADIUS-NAT 1.1.1.10 1.1.1.10 netmask /32 vrid 1

*****************************************************

Virtual Port Template

*****************************************************

slb template virtual-port SNAT-PORT-PRESERVE

  snat-port-preserve

**************************************************************

Access List, only traffic from PSN subnet to UDP 1700

**************************************************************

ip access-list ISE-CoA

  permit udp 2.2.2.0 0.0.0.255 any eq 1700

*****************************************************

Server, send traffic to A10 Default Gateway

*****************************************************

slb server A10-DFGW 1.1.1.1

  health-check-disable

  port 0 udp

    health-check-disable

*****************************************************

Service Group

*****************************************************

slb service-group SG-A10-DFGW udp

  member A10-DFGW 0

*****************************************************

Virtual Server

*****************************************************

slb virtual-server VS-ISE-COA 0.0.0.0 acl name ISE-CoA

  vrid 1

  port 0 udp

    name ISE-CoA:udp-0

    source-nat pool COA-RADIUS-NAT

    service-group SG-A10-DFGW

    template virtual-port SNAT-PORT-PRESERVE

    no-dest-nat

So basically the VIP is doing MAC address swapping and the destination IP is not change at all.  Just changing the destination MAC address to that of the default gateway, changing source IP to RADIUS VIP IP and sending packet on its way.

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VIP Engager

Re: Cisco ISE loadbalancing with A10 loadbalancer

I have done a large deployment with A10s before.  We worked with the A10 support team to get a COA SNAT solution working that changes the CoA packet to be sourced from the VIP.  I don't remember the specifics, but once we clearly spelled out what we need from the A10 the support at A10 was easily able to get a solution for us.

Basically all we told them was "We want any packet with a destination port of UDP 1700 sourced from the back side subnet to anywhere in the network to have its source IP changed to the VIP we are using for RADIUS."

I will try to contact the customer, to see if he will share a scrubbed version of the A10 setup for that.

Beginner

Re: Cisco ISE loadbalancing with A10 loadbalancer

Many thanks for this. If you can get anything from the customer also that would be much appreciated.

Mark Pearson

Team Leader

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VIP Engager

Re: Cisco ISE loadbalancing with A10 loadbalancer

Mark,

Here you go.  I cleaned up the config and modeled it after the following fictional topology:

A10 CoA.jpg

******************************************************************************

Interface Config, need to enabled the support of a promiscuous VIP

******************************************************************************

interface ve 1/28

  name PSN Subnet

  enable

  ip address 2.2.2.1 255.255.255.0

  ip allow-promiscuous-vip


*****************************************************

NAT Pool, RADIUS VIP to change CoA to

*****************************************************

ip nat pool COA-RADIUS-NAT 1.1.1.10 1.1.1.10 netmask /32 vrid 1

*****************************************************

Virtual Port Template

*****************************************************

slb template virtual-port SNAT-PORT-PRESERVE

  snat-port-preserve

**************************************************************

Access List, only traffic from PSN subnet to UDP 1700

**************************************************************

ip access-list ISE-CoA

  permit udp 2.2.2.0 0.0.0.255 any eq 1700

*****************************************************

Server, send traffic to A10 Default Gateway

*****************************************************

slb server A10-DFGW 1.1.1.1

  health-check-disable

  port 0 udp

    health-check-disable

*****************************************************

Service Group

*****************************************************

slb service-group SG-A10-DFGW udp

  member A10-DFGW 0

*****************************************************

Virtual Server

*****************************************************

slb virtual-server VS-ISE-COA 0.0.0.0 acl name ISE-CoA

  vrid 1

  port 0 udp

    name ISE-CoA:udp-0

    source-nat pool COA-RADIUS-NAT

    service-group SG-A10-DFGW

    template virtual-port SNAT-PORT-PRESERVE

    no-dest-nat

So basically the VIP is doing MAC address swapping and the destination IP is not change at all.  Just changing the destination MAC address to that of the default gateway, changing source IP to RADIUS VIP IP and sending packet on its way.

Beginner

Re: Cisco ISE loadbalancing with A10 loadbalancer

Thanks Paul, I'll give this a go and let you know

Advocate

Re: Cisco ISE loadbalancing with A10 loadbalancer

If verified working, I can link to config from our HA/Load Balancing page since we lack an A10 example.

From config, it does not appear that A10 supports persistence on RADIUS attributes like Calling Station ID and no RADIUS-specific health monitor, correct?

VIP Engager

Re: Cisco ISE loadbalancing with A10 loadbalancer

Craig,

I can’t remember what we did for persistence at the customer I posted the A10 CoA config from. I thought we did something with RADIUS Calling Station ID, but not sure. The config snippet I was helping Mark with was just around the CoA SNATting piece.