10-24-2014 02:04 AM - edited 03-17-2019 12:40 AM
Dear All,
Can we change the license type DLU to UCL without upgrading CUCM version (current v.8.6.2) and without active UCSS/ESW contract?
Thanks.
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10-24-2014 03:39 AM
Hi Frank,
Before u do major upgarde, upload all un-unsed DLUs to Call manager.
Secondly,if u have any free DLUs, that would get converted to UCL Enhanced/ Enhanced Plus after the major upgrade is done . This can be done only after u do successful migration to CUCM 9 or 10.
Further , if u purchase UCL now for CUCM 8 , the same would work as DLU after u upload the licenses in CUCM 8.x.
Un-used DLUs get converted to enhanced UCL be default if u do not mention to licensing team.
refer the link
https://communities.cisco.com/thread/41026
regds,
aman
10-25-2014 02:42 AM
Hi Frank,
Analog phones/6901 /3905 do not consume any DLUs but we need to purchase Analog phone Licneses not DLU , had it been DLU case or they were not End of Sale
But now it is UCL essential in CUCM 8 or CUCM 9 since DLU is end of sale.
Device Type - Cost in DLUs
Cisco VGC Phone (Voice Gateway Controlled, e.g. behind VG248)
Cisco VGC Virtual Phone (Voice Gateway Controlled, e.g. behind VG248)
Analog Phone
CTI Port
0 -DLU's
I suggest reading the link
https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11824511/ucl-and-vg248
regds,
aman
10-24-2014 03:08 AM
Hi Frank,
Can u explain what is the reason behind this since even if u have UCL , at the backened, DLUs would work in CUCM 8.6.2?
If u are planning to upgrade to major CUCM version , then, u need to have ESW/UCSS contract and used DLUs would get converted to UCL after the mail is initiated to licensing team.
regds,
aman
10-24-2014 03:24 AM
Hi Aman,
Thanks for the reply,
Currently we have only DLU license.
Used -7780
Free - 620
As DLU is going to eos from next january. we cant buy extra dlu bundles.
So i need to convert our all DLU (Used and free ) to UCL but it doesn't required to upgrade cucm version.
( i guess we cant use both licence type at the same time DLU and UCL).
(clarify me if my understanding is wrong)
Thanks.
10-24-2014 03:39 AM
Hi Frank,
Before u do major upgarde, upload all un-unsed DLUs to Call manager.
Secondly,if u have any free DLUs, that would get converted to UCL Enhanced/ Enhanced Plus after the major upgrade is done . This can be done only after u do successful migration to CUCM 9 or 10.
Further , if u purchase UCL now for CUCM 8 , the same would work as DLU after u upload the licenses in CUCM 8.x.
Un-used DLUs get converted to enhanced UCL be default if u do not mention to licensing team.
refer the link
https://communities.cisco.com/thread/41026
regds,
aman
10-24-2014 05:40 AM
Thanks Aman.
Its mean i can use both UCL and DLU at the same time (with v.8.6). if i upload LIC-CUCM-9X-USR-A it will work as DLU (at backend)?
and another thing as ex. for cp-7942
with DLU license its required 4 DLU
with UCL license its required 6 DLU (enhanced = 6DLU)
any idea on this?
i dont have access to the above thread link.
Thanks
10-24-2014 05:53 AM
Hi Fraank,
you cannot use this Part Code and check in Table 2
http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/partner/WWChannels/technology/ipc/downloads/UC_8_6_OG.pdf
for new purchases:
Start with Top Level part number R-CUCM-USR-LIC
LIC-CUCM-USR-A UCL - 1 Enhanced User, Tier A, 1-999 users
LIC-CUCM-USR-B UCL - 1 Enhanced User, Tier B, 1000-9999 users
LIC-CUCM-USR-C UCL - 1 Enhanced User, Tier C, 10,000 and greater users
LIC-CUCM-BASIC-A UCL - 1 Basic User, Tier A, 1-999 users
LIC-CUCM-BASIC-B UCL - 1 Basic User, Tier B, 1000-9999 users
LIC-CUCM-BASIC-C UCL - 1 Basic User, Tier C, 10,000 and greater users
LIC-CUCM-ESS-A UCL - 1 Essential, or an application user add-on
LIC-CUCM-ESS-B UCL - 1 Essential, or an application user add-on
LIC-CUCM-ESS-C UCL - 1 Essential, or an application user add-on
regds,
aman
10-24-2014 06:02 AM
thanks for the correct part number.
Its mean i can use both UCL and DLU at the same time (with v.8.6). if i upload LIC-CUCM-USR-A it will work as DLU (at backend)?
and another thing as ex. for cp-7942
with DLU license its required 4 DLU
with UCL license its required 6 DLU (enhanced = 6DLU)
can you pleas clarify on me above?
i need to purchase new UCL license soon also need to use existing DLUs without any conversion.
Thanks.
10-24-2014 06:53 AM
Hi Frank,
yes, u can mix them. At backened, it is all DLU till CCM 8.
I won't be able to comment on consumption of DLUs in UCL.
We can wait if somebody expert on this part helps us else request u to open a new thread.
regds,
aman
10-24-2014 06:57 AM
Grate thanks Mr. Aman.
your comment is really help-full. i will order LIC-CUCM-USR-A UCL
Thanks.
10-25-2014 01:22 AM
Hi,
Just one more things to clarify.
Currently we have (20 analog phones) VG224 + cp-6901
If i use DLU+UCL at same time how license allocated with these analog and 6901 phones?
With DLU - no license required.
With UCL - Essential required.
Thanks.
10-25-2014 02:05 AM
Hi Frank,
Just refer this discussion.In CUCM 8.x , no DLUs are consumed for analog/3905 IP phones.
https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11824511/ucl-and-vg248
Further, if u are purchasing licneses for Analog /6901/3905 , u need to have UCL Essential license.
regds,
aman
10-25-2014 02:37 AM
Hi Aman,
I understood what you mentioned above. but in my case.
Currently im using DLU and i need to purchase UCL (because DLU is going to eos). and as you told, in cucm 8.6 UCL act as a DLU at the backend (when i mixed DLU and UCL in same server ). so can we add new analog phones without (UCL-essential).
If i use only UCL i know for analog phones its required UCL-essential.
Hope you will understand my situation.
Thanks
10-25-2014 02:42 AM
Hi Frank,
Analog phones/6901 /3905 do not consume any DLUs but we need to purchase Analog phone Licneses not DLU , had it been DLU case or they were not End of Sale
But now it is UCL essential in CUCM 8 or CUCM 9 since DLU is end of sale.
Device Type - Cost in DLUs
Cisco VGC Phone (Voice Gateway Controlled, e.g. behind VG248)
Cisco VGC Virtual Phone (Voice Gateway Controlled, e.g. behind VG248)
Analog Phone
CTI Port
0 -DLU's
I suggest reading the link
https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11824511/ucl-and-vg248
regds,
aman
10-25-2014 02:50 AM
Thanks a lot Aman.
everything is clear
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