DLU to UCL

[frank3333]

Dear All,

Can we change the license type DLU to UCL without upgrading CUCM version (current v.8.6.2) and without active UCSS/ESW contract?

Thanks.

[Aman Soi]

Hi Frank,

Can u explain what is the reason behind this  since even if u have UCL , at the backened, DLUs would work in CUCM 8.6.2?

If u are planning to upgrade to major CUCM version , then, u need to have ESW/UCSS contract and used DLUs would get converted to UCL after the mail is initiated to licensing team. 

regds,

aman

[frank3333]

Hi Aman,

Thanks for the reply,

Currently we have only DLU license.

Used -7780

Free  - 620

 As DLU is going to eos from next january. we cant buy extra dlu bundles. 

So i need to convert our all DLU (Used and free ) to UCL but it doesn't required to upgrade cucm version.

( i guess we cant use both licence type at the same time DLU and UCL).

(clarify me if my understanding is wrong)

Thanks.

[Aman Soi · Accepted solution]

Hi Frank,

Before u do major upgarde, upload all un-unsed DLUs to Call manager. 

Secondly,if u have any free DLUs, that would get converted to UCL Enhanced/ Enhanced Plus after the major upgrade is done . This can be done only after u do successful migration to CUCM 9 or 10.

Further , if u purchase UCL now for CUCM 8 , the same would work as DLU after u upload the licenses in CUCM 8.x.

Un-used DLUs get converted to enhanced UCL be default if u do not mention to licensing team.

refer the link

https://communities.cisco.com/thread/41026

regds,

aman

[frank3333]

Thanks Aman.

Its mean i can use both UCL and DLU at the same time (with v.8.6). if i upload LIC-CUCM-9X-USR-A it will work as DLU (at backend)?

and another thing as ex. for cp-7942 

         with DLU license its required 4 DLU

         with UCL license its required 6 DLU (enhanced = 6DLU)      

any idea on this?

i dont have access to the above thread link.

Thanks

[Aman Soi]

Hi Fraank,

you cannot use this Part Code and check in Table 2

http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/partner/WWChannels/technology/ipc/downloads/UC_8_6_OG.pdf

for new purchases:

Start with Top Level part number R-CUCM-USR-LIC

LIC-CUCM-USR-A UCL - 1 Enhanced User, Tier A, 1-999 users
LIC-CUCM-USR-B UCL - 1 Enhanced User, Tier B, 1000-9999 users
LIC-CUCM-USR-C UCL - 1 Enhanced User, Tier C, 10,000 and greater users
LIC-CUCM-BASIC-A UCL - 1 Basic User, Tier A, 1-999 users
LIC-CUCM-BASIC-B UCL - 1 Basic User, Tier B, 1000-9999 users
LIC-CUCM-BASIC-C UCL - 1 Basic User, Tier C, 10,000 and greater users
LIC-CUCM-ESS-A UCL - 1 Essential, or an application user add-on
LIC-CUCM-ESS-B UCL - 1 Essential, or an application user add-on
LIC-CUCM-ESS-C UCL - 1 Essential, or an application user add-on

regds,

aman

[frank3333]

thanks for the correct part number.

Its mean i can use both UCL and DLU at the same time (with v.8.6). if i upload LIC-CUCM-USR-A it will work as DLU (at backend)?

and another thing as ex. for cp-7942 

         with DLU license its required 4 DLU

         with UCL license its required 6 DLU (enhanced = 6DLU)

can you pleas clarify on me above?

i need to purchase new UCL license soon also need to use existing DLUs without any conversion.

Thanks. 

[Aman Soi]

Hi Frank,

yes, u can mix them. At backened, it is all DLU till CCM 8.

I won't be able to comment on consumption of DLUs in UCL. 

We can wait if somebody expert on this part helps us else request u to open a new thread.

regds,

aman

[frank3333]

Grate thanks Mr. Aman.

your comment is really help-full. i will order LIC-CUCM-USR-A UCL 

Thanks.

[frank3333]

Hi,

Just one more things to clarify.

Currently we have (20 analog phones) VG224 + cp-6901

If i use DLU+UCL at same time how license allocated with these analog and 6901 phones?

With DLU - no license required. 

With UCL - Essential required.

Thanks.

[Aman Soi]

Hi Frank,

Just refer this discussion.In CUCM 8.x , no DLUs are consumed for analog/3905 IP phones.

https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11824511/ucl-and-vg248

Further, if u are purchasing licneses for Analog /6901/3905  , u need to have UCL Essential license.

regds,

aman

[frank3333]

Hi Aman,

I understood what you mentioned above. but in my case.

Currently im using DLU and i need to purchase UCL (because DLU is going to eos). and as you told, in cucm 8.6 UCL act as a DLU at the backend (when i mixed DLU and UCL in same server ). so can we add new analog phones without (UCL-essential).

If i use only UCL i know for analog phones its required UCL-essential.

Hope you will understand my situation.

Thanks 

[Aman Soi · Accepted solution]

Hi Frank,

Analog phones/6901 /3905 do not consume any DLUs but we need to purchase Analog phone Licneses not DLU , had it been DLU case or they were not End of Sale

But now it is UCL essential in CUCM 8 or CUCM 9 since DLU is end of sale.

Device Type - Cost in DLUs

Cisco VGC Phone (Voice Gateway Controlled, e.g. behind VG248)

Cisco VGC Virtual Phone (Voice Gateway Controlled, e.g. behind VG248)

Analog Phone

CTI Port

0 -DLU's

I suggest reading the link 

https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11824511/ucl-and-vg248

regds,

aman

[frank3333]

Thanks a lot Aman.

everything is clear