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Fax Passthrough using NSE (via ITSP and Rightfax)

Andy Backus
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I have a customer who has the following setup:

SIP Provider => MPLS => CUBE (SIP) => CCM (SIP)       - cube set for passthu using NSE

     CCM (MGCP) => VG224                                            - set for passthu using NSE

     CCM (SIP)      => Cisco RightFax                                - set for T38 with passthru failover (realize it is protocol xfer)

     CCM (MGCP) => Router with tieline to PBX                 - set for passthu using NSE

- all g711ulay with no vad (and default 20ms samples for lack of a better term)

Testing, minimal, currently works from:

       - PSTN to VG224 (both ways)

       - Rightfax to VG224 (both ways)

Questions

1. PSTN=> VG224

     - capture shows initial g711u negotiated  (see attached flow graphic form wireshark)

     - as expected, vg224 sending NSE to switch and provider ignore (no RTP 192 ack ever)

     - fax still goes through, only doing 1-2 pages

     - working in both directions even though see Cisco side always trying NSE switch unsuccessfully

Q1: why does this work?

Q2: Will it work consistently for large faxes or faxes that have images?

Q3: since NSE does not work, can I assume no switch to 10ms sample: what impact to quality?

2. Rightfax to VG224

    - same thing here, NSE is ignored as expected

    - but fax still worked in both directions

I am asking becuase this is not yet in production and our sample faxes have been 1 to 2 pages and also we are not yet doing any volume.

Design :

- T38 from Rightfax <=> ITSP (works fine)

- would love to do T38 across board but ITP does not support T38 re-invite for PSTN bound faxes

       o and I am told Cisco will not re-invite of not on terminating side (Rightfax does)

- just provided this for big picture (anticipating recommendations)

Summary

- just why are the passthroughs working for flows that are terminating on non-Cisco gear

    - associated concern about reliability

    - associated concern about fax quality

Thank you!

Andy

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