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Russia callmanager ver 8.0 not allowed?

Hi

I am hoping to reach out to some russian cisco experts here. I have been told Callmanager version 8 is not allowed in Russia due to an encryption option.

is this true?

regards

Colin

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Re: Russia callmanager ver 8.0 not allowed?

Hi Colin,

Just to add a note to the good tips from Java (+5 Java)

Each CUCM version since 7.1(5) has both the "normal" Restricted

version and an un-Restricted version available for download (.iso). You

will only see a reference for the un-Restricted version

Unrestricted Export Support

The restricted US export classification on Cisco Unified CM meant that governmental and military customers in many countries could not employ Unified CM in their networks.

In addition to the delay inherent in obtaining export licenses, products classified as restricted by the Department of Commerce (DoC) carry a requirement to allow US government representatives to demand on-site inspections at any time to confirm that the product is being used in accordance with its licensed purpose. This post-shipment verification (PSV) is unacceptable to many customers.

Additionally, some foreign countries maintain import restrictions which prohibited Unified CM from being available to customers in those countries. Both US export and foreign import issues stem from Unified CM support for strong encryption of signaling and media.

Unrestricted Classification

Because Cisco has obtained an unrestricted classification from the DoC for a version of Unified CM, beginning with Unified CM 7.1(5), both restricted and unrestricted versions of Unified CM will be released in parallel.

Limitations

Signaling and media encryption is permanently disabled in the unrestricted version, but remains unchanged in the restricted version.

Migration from the unrestricted version to the restricted version is not supported.


Note No impact exists to other security features such as HTTP(s), SSH, password encryption and authentication (for example, SIP digest authentication), mechanisms used by unrestricted Unified CM clients such as JTAPI, TSP, encryption of SNMP traffic, encryption of data related to database that is done by using IPSEC and IMS on the server side.

The communication between CTL client and provider remains encrypted.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/7_1_5/cucm-rel_notes-715.html#wp1768767

Here are the examples;

un-Restricted

UCSInstall_UCOS_UNRST_8.5.1.10000-26.sgn.iso

Restricted

UCSInstall_UCOS_8.5.1.10000-26.sgn.iso

Cheers!

Rob

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Re: Russia callmanager ver 8.0 not allowed?

I'm not from Russia but there is a restricted and an un-restricted version of CUCM.

Restricted has encryption enabled and is the regular CUCM version, un-restricted doesn't have encryption capabilities and is for selected markets.

By what you're mentioning most likely you can only get the un-restricted version.

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Re: Russia callmanager ver 8.0 not allowed?

Hi

Many thanks for your reply. It sounds interesting, problem is i have looked around the cisco web site and i cant find any reference to restricted callmanager software. Our current standard is ver 8.0.3.

colin

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Re: Russia callmanager ver 8.0 not allowed?

Hi Colin,

Just to add a note to the good tips from Java (+5 Java)

Each CUCM version since 7.1(5) has both the "normal" Restricted

version and an un-Restricted version available for download (.iso). You

will only see a reference for the un-Restricted version

Unrestricted Export Support

The restricted US export classification on Cisco Unified CM meant that governmental and military customers in many countries could not employ Unified CM in their networks.

In addition to the delay inherent in obtaining export licenses, products classified as restricted by the Department of Commerce (DoC) carry a requirement to allow US government representatives to demand on-site inspections at any time to confirm that the product is being used in accordance with its licensed purpose. This post-shipment verification (PSV) is unacceptable to many customers.

Additionally, some foreign countries maintain import restrictions which prohibited Unified CM from being available to customers in those countries. Both US export and foreign import issues stem from Unified CM support for strong encryption of signaling and media.

Unrestricted Classification

Because Cisco has obtained an unrestricted classification from the DoC for a version of Unified CM, beginning with Unified CM 7.1(5), both restricted and unrestricted versions of Unified CM will be released in parallel.

Limitations

Signaling and media encryption is permanently disabled in the unrestricted version, but remains unchanged in the restricted version.

Migration from the unrestricted version to the restricted version is not supported.


Note No impact exists to other security features such as HTTP(s), SSH, password encryption and authentication (for example, SIP digest authentication), mechanisms used by unrestricted Unified CM clients such as JTAPI, TSP, encryption of SNMP traffic, encryption of data related to database that is done by using IPSEC and IMS on the server side.

The communication between CTL client and provider remains encrypted.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/7_1_5/cucm-rel_notes-715.html#wp1768767

Here are the examples;

un-Restricted

UCSInstall_UCOS_UNRST_8.5.1.10000-26.sgn.iso

Restricted

UCSInstall_UCOS_8.5.1.10000-26.sgn.iso

Cheers!

Rob

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Re: Russia callmanager ver 8.0 not allowed?

Thanks to both of you that was very helpful

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Re: Russia callmanager ver 8.0 not allowed?

Hi Rob

Thank you very much.

I am now being told russian CISCO resellers will not sell version 8.0 in unrestricted versions, but will sell version 8.5.

So if you are a russian reseller please let me know if this is corrrect, can we purchase unrestricted version 8.0 from you ?

colin

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Re: Russia callmanager ver 8.0 not allowed?

HI

I thought i would update this link since i have some clarification on the situation in Russia from Cisco see below.

Russia has stringent import restrictions and only

CUCM7.1(5) and the upcoming  CUCM 8.6 can be imported into Russia without special licensing required.

Regards

Colin

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Re: Russia callmanager ver 8.0 not allowed?

Hey Colin,

Thanks for posting back with your results

+5 for this kind follow up!

Cheers!

Rob

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