Re: What type of card for a NEC CCIS circuit?

Matthew Michaluk · ‎11-28-2012

Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone knew what type of card would be required for a Cisco 2921 to emulate a point to point T1 using CCIS coming from the NEC 2000?

Thanks,

Matt

paolo bevilacqua · ‎11-28-2012

VWIC3-1MFT-T1/E1 and PVDM3 modules.

Matthew Michaluk · ‎11-28-2012

We have 2921 ISR with a VWIC3-1MFT-T1/E1 - 1-Port RJ-48 Multiflex Trunk - T1/E1 and

32-channel (G.711) Voice/Fax PVDM3 DSP DIMM PVDM daughter card.

Do you have any idea what the framing and signaling and switch type should be?

paolo bevilacqua · ‎11-28-2012

Default PRI settings should be fine.

http://www.necunifiedsolutions.com/main/Products/ProProduct.asp?solid=11&prodid=70

Thank you for the nice rating and good luck!

Brandon Svec · ‎11-28-2012

CCIS is a proprietary NEC protocol and Cisco cannot operate with it directly.

However- the NEAX2000 with the same T1 card can be configured for regular tie lines or qsig/PRI.

Paolo is correct about the hardware required, but just be clear that you will never get the systems talking if the NEC is configured for CCIS.

You will need to work with an NEC tech to make this work.

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paolo bevilacqua · ‎11-28-2012

Hi Brandon,

On the Cisco, there are two techniques to make proprietary protocols to work over VoIP, even before taking the route of Circuit Emulation, that is much more expensive.

First, is tunneling of Q.931 messages in H.323 or SIP. Since the CCIS appears to be based on Q.931, that alone may suffice.

Second, is Transparent CCS. This way, the signalling channel is totally un-interpreted, and anything received is sent the other side. The B channels are transported all the time with 'trunk commands' with the option of VAD and compression, so the bandwidth optimization is still there.

Using one of the two will get any third party system going, hofully they can then migrate the entire system to Cisco at some point.

Matthew Michaluk · ‎11-28-2012

Thanks. Would you have an example of a config using transparent ccs?

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Matthew Michaluk · ‎11-28-2012

Or a config of
tunneling of Q.931
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Harmit Singh · ‎11-28-2012

Hi Mathew,

Here is a config and troubleshooting doc for TCCS:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk653/technologies_tech_note09186a00800a96c1.shtml

HTH.

Regards,

Harmit.

Matthew Michaluk · ‎11-29-2012

So for a T1 would it look like this?

ds0-group 0 timeslots 24 type ext-sig

ds0-group 1 timeslots 1 type ext-sig

ds0-group 2 timeslots 2 type ext-sig

ds0-group 3 timeslots 3 type ext-sig

ds0-group 4 timeslots 4 type ext-sig

ds0-group 5 timeslots 5 type ext-sig

ds0-group 6 timeslots 6 type ext-sig

ds0-group 7 timeslots 7 type ext-sig

ds0-group 8 timeslots 8 type ext-sig

ds0-group 9 timeslots 9 type ext-sig

ds0-group 10 timeslots 10 type ext-sig

ds0-group 11 timeslots 11 type ext-sig

ds0-group 12 timeslots 12 type ext-sig

ds0-group 13 timeslots 13 type ext-sig

ds0-group 14 timeslots 14 type ext-sig

ds0-group 15 timeslots 15 type ext-sig

ds0-group 16 timeslots 16 type ext-sig

ds0-group 17 timeslots 17 type ext-sig

ds0-group 18 timeslots 18 type ext-sig

ds0-group 19 timeslots 19 type ext-sig

ds0-group 20 timeslots 20 type ext-sig

ds0-group 21 timeslots 21 type ext-sig

ds0-group 22 timeslots 22 type ext-sig

ds0-group 22 timeslots 23 type ext-sig

Matthew Michaluk · ‎11-29-2012

Do you know if those connection trunks can use wild cards?

I tried to enter in connection trunk 98.. and it rejected it.

paolo bevilacqua · ‎11-29-2012

No wild cards in conenctiont runk (it would not make sense).

You can use them in the voip dial-peer.

To begin, just configure as per example.

Matthew Michaluk · ‎12-11-2012

For some reason we are receiving line code errors when connected to the NEC 2000 into the VWIC3-mft-t1/e1.

Matthew Michaluk · ‎12-11-2012

Here is the config of the side with the line code errors:

controller T1 0/0/0

framing SF

linecode ami

cablelength long 0db

ds0-group 0 timeslots 24 type ext-sig

ds0-group 1 timeslots 1 type ext-sig

ds0-group 2 timeslots 2 type ext-sig

ds0-group 3 timeslots 3 type ext-sig

ds0-group 4 timeslots 4 type ext-sig

ds0-group 5 timeslots 5 type ext-sig

ds0-group 6 timeslots 6 type ext-sig

ds0-group 7 timeslots 7 type ext-sig

ds0-group 8 timeslots 8 type ext-sig

ds0-group 9 timeslots 9 type ext-sig

ds0-group 10 timeslots 10 type ext-sig

ds0-group 11 timeslots 11 type ext-sig

ds0-group 12 timeslots 12 type ext-sig

ds0-group 13 timeslots 13 type ext-sig

ds0-group 14 timeslots 14 type ext-sig

ds0-group 15 timeslots 15 type ext-sig

ds0-group 16 timeslots 16 type ext-sig

ds0-group 17 timeslots 17 type ext-sig

ds0-group 18 timeslots 18 type ext-sig

ds0-group 19 timeslots 19 type ext-sig

ds0-group 20 timeslots 20 type ext-sig

ds0-group 21 timeslots 21 type ext-sig

ds0-group 22 timeslots 22 type ext-sig

ds0-group 23 timeslots 23 type ext-sig

!

voice-port 0/0/0:0

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 5001 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:1

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8001 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:2

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8002 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:3

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8003 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:4

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8004 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:5

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8005 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:6

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8006 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:7

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8007 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:8

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8008 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:9

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8009 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:10

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8010 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:11

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8011 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:12

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8012 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:13

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8013 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:14

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8014 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:15

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8015 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:16

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8016 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:17

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8017 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:18

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8018 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:19

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8019 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:20

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8020 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:21

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8021 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:22

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8022 answer-mode

!

voice-port 0/0/0:23

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 8023 answer-mode

dial-peer voice 3001 pots

destination-pattern 3001

port 0/0/0:0

!

dial-peer voice 6001 pots

destination-pattern 6002

port 0/0/0:1

!

dial-peer voice 6002 pots

destination-pattern 6003

port 0/0/0:2

!

dial-peer voice 6003 pots

destination-pattern 6003

port 0/0/0:3

!

dial-peer voice 6004 pots

destination-pattern 6004

port 0/0/0:4

!

dial-peer voice 6005 pots

destination-pattern 6005

port 0/0/0:5

!

dial-peer voice 6006 pots

destination-pattern 6006

port 0/0/0:6

!

dial-peer voice 6007 pots

destination-pattern 6007

port 0/0/0:7

!

dial-peer voice 6008 pots

destination-pattern 6008

port 0/0/0:8

!

dial-peer voice 6009 pots

destination-pattern 6009

port 0/0/0:9

!

dial-peer voice 6010 pots

destination-pattern 6010

port 0/0/0:10

!

dial-peer voice 6011 pots

destination-pattern 6011

port 0/0/0:11

!

dial-peer voice 6012 pots

destination-pattern 6012

port 0/0/0:12

!

dial-peer voice 6013 pots

destination-pattern 6013

port 0/0/0:13

!

dial-peer voice 6014 pots

destination-pattern 6014

port 0/0/0:14

!

dial-peer voice 6015 pots

destination-pattern 6015

port 0/0/0:15

!

dial-peer voice 6016 pots

destination-pattern 6016

port 0/0/0:16

!

dial-peer voice 6017 pots

destination-pattern 6017

port 0/0/0:17

!

dial-peer voice 6018 pots

destination-pattern 6018

port 0/0/0:18

!

dial-peer voice 6019 pots

destination-pattern 6019

port 0/0/0:19

!

dial-peer voice 6020 pots

destination-pattern 6020

port 0/0/0:20

!

dial-peer voice 6021 pots

destination-pattern 6021

port 0/0/0:21

!

dial-peer voice 6022 pots

destination-pattern 6022

port 0/0/0:22

!

dial-peer voice 6023 pots

destination-pattern 6023

port 0/0/0:23

!

dial-peer voice 8000 voip

destination-pattern 80..

session target ipv4:10.181.38.151

!

dial-peer voice 5001 voip

answer-address 3001

destination-pattern 5001

session target ipv4:10.181.38.151

codec clear-channel

Matthew Michaluk · ‎12-11-2012

Here is the router that comes up clean:

controller T1 0/0

framing sf

linecode ami

ds0-group 0 timeslots 24 type ext-sig

ds0-group 1 timeslots 1 type ext-sig

ds0-group 2 timeslots 2 type ext-sig

ds0-group 3 timeslots 3 type ext-sig

ds0-group 4 timeslots 4 type ext-sig

ds0-group 5 timeslots 5 type ext-sig

ds0-group 6 timeslots 6 type ext-sig

ds0-group 7 timeslots 7 type ext-sig

ds0-group 8 timeslots 8 type ext-sig

ds0-group 9 timeslots 9 type ext-sig

ds0-group 10 timeslots 10 type ext-sig

ds0-group 11 timeslots 11 type ext-sig

ds0-group 12 timeslots 12 type ext-sig

ds0-group 13 timeslots 13 type ext-sig

ds0-group 14 timeslots 14 type ext-sig

ds0-group 15 timeslots 15 type ext-sig

ds0-group 16 timeslots 16 type ext-sig

ds0-group 17 timeslots 17 type ext-sig

ds0-group 18 timeslots 18 type ext-sig

ds0-group 19 timeslots 19 type ext-sig

ds0-group 20 timeslots 20 type ext-sig

ds0-group 21 timeslots 21 type ext-sig

ds0-group 22 timeslots 22 type ext-sig

ds0-group 23 timeslots 23 type ext-sig

voice-port 0/0:3

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6003

!

voice-port 0/0:4

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6004

!

voice-port 0/0:5

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6005

!

voice-port 0/0:6

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6006

!

voice-port 0/0:7

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6007

!

voice-port 0/0:8

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6008

!

voice-port 0/0:9

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6009

!

voice-port 0/0:10

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6010

!

voice-port 0/0:11

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6011

!

voice-port 0/0:12

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6012

!

voice-port 0/0:13

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6013

!

voice-port 0/0:14

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6014

!

voice-port 0/0:15

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6015

!

voice-port 0/0:16

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6016

!

voice-port 0/0:17

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6017

!

voice-port 0/0:18

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6018

!

voice-port 0/0:19

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6019

!

voice-port 0/0:20

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6020

!

voice-port 0/0:21

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6021

!

voice-port 0/0:22

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6022

!

voice-port 0/0:23

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6023

!

voice-port 0/0:0

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 3001

!

voice-port 0/0:1

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6001

!

voice-port 0/0:2

timeouts call-disconnect 3

timeouts wait-release 3

connection trunk 6002

dial-peer voice 5001 pots

destination-pattern 5001

port 0/0:0

!

dial-peer voice 8001 pots

destination-pattern 8001

port 0/0:1

!

dial-peer voice 8002 pots

destination-pattern 8002

port 0/0:2

!

dial-peer voice 8003 pots

destination-pattern 8003

port 0/0:3

!

dial-peer voice 8004 pots

destination-pattern 8004

port 0/0:4

!

dial-peer voice 8005 pots

destination-pattern 8005

port 0/0:5

!

dial-peer voice 8006 pots

destination-pattern 8006

port 0/0:6

!

dial-peer voice 8007 pots

destination-pattern 8007

port 0/0:7

!

dial-peer voice 8008 pots

destination-pattern 8008

port 0/0:8

!

dial-peer voice 8009 pots

destination-pattern 8009

port 0/0:9

!

dial-peer voice 8010 pots

destination-pattern 8010

port 0/0:10

!

dial-peer voice 8011 pots

destination-pattern 8011

port 0/0:11

!

dial-peer voice 8012 pots

destination-pattern 8012

port 0/0:12

!

dial-peer voice 8013 pots

destination-pattern 8013

port 0/0:13

!

dial-peer voice 8014 pots

destination-pattern 8014

port 0/0:14

!

dial-peer voice 8015 pots

destination-pattern 8015

port 0/0:15

!

dial-peer voice 8016 pots

destination-pattern 8016

port 0/0:16

!

dial-peer voice 8017 pots

destination-pattern 8017

port 0/0:17

!

dial-peer voice 8018 pots

destination-pattern 8018

port 0/0:18

!

dial-peer voice 8019 pots

destination-pattern 8019

port 0/0:19

!

dial-peer voice 8020 pots

destination-pattern 8020

port 0/0:20

!

dial-peer voice 8021 pots

destination-pattern 8021

port 0/0:21

!

dial-peer voice 8022 pots

destination-pattern 8022

port 0/0:22

!

dial-peer voice 8023 pots

destination-pattern 8023

port 0/0:23

!

dial-peer voice 3001 voip

answer-address 5001

destination-pattern 3001

session target ipv4:10.1.106.1

codec clear-channel

!

dial-peer voice 6000 voip

destination-pattern 60..

session target ipv4:10.1.106.1