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AP has too many Rx neighbors

Hi All,

Some of our 702w APs in a single building is having random latency and packet loss. 702w AP in the other building are all working fine. I was suggested to upgrade firmware version first then trying out other actions if this suggestion fails to solve the issue. By default, the channel assignment method for all of our APs here are automatic. I tried changing the 802.11 a/n/ac channel manually which seems to be solving the issue. However the day after, other APs in the same building will be experiencing the same issue. It's like 4 APs with issue every day.

I just found out that when the AP experiences the issue, the AP's interference profile for 802.11 a/n/ac is showing Failed status instead of Passed and the AP is seeing too many Rx neighbors nearby. I am currently working in a hotel  and a normal AP is showing at least 5 nearby rx neighbors which are APs on the same floor, top floor and bottom floor. I checked an AP experiencing this issue and saw 18 nearby rx neighbors on this AP and it can even see AP from 4 floors above it.

Now, my first suspect is that the power level of the AP is maybe set too high which is why some APs see it as nearby even though it is n floors away but I checked that the power level are also set automatically.

Can I hear your insights regarding this?

 

APs with normal ping:

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APs experiencing random packet loss and high latency:

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Re: AP has too many Rx neighbors

Well one thing to consider is they building materials and or adjacent neighbors when you compare site to site. One thing you can do is create an RF-profile and ap group for that site and only use channels that you seem to be working fine which is in the DCA for the RF-profile. Then you can assign the RF-profile to the ap group and place those AP’s in the ap group. I don’t know what else you can do unless you go onsite with tools and also look at how these are deployed.
-Scott
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Re: AP has too many Rx neighbors

Channels 36 - 48 are not in use, any reason for that? That would be another 4 channels to spread the APs.
But as most are below -80 dBm, it's not too bad. You also don't seem to use any between 100 and 149 (besides one AP).
Do you have a lot of DFS issues there?
You might want to use DFS and TPC (RRM) in that building, if the users are allowed to add their own APs and Hotspots.
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Re: AP has too many Rx neighbors

Hi,
Thanks for the reply. Channels 36, 40, 44, 48, 52, 56, 60, 64, 149, 153, 157, 161 are enabled for DCA Channel List in 802.11a/n/ac. Channels 36-48 are used by other APs but not listed in the screenshot.
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Re: AP has too many Rx neighbors

Looks fine to me.
Also your interference graphs are typically ok for a multi-tenant building.
What firmware are you running on the 702w? There were a few releases in the past with various issues, which were fixed in the most recent releases.
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Re: AP has too many Rx neighbors

Hi Almarez,

 

what about disabling the data rates? Do you still have enabled the lowest one?

 

You could try to disable them if not needed due to coverage needs.

 

BR,

 

Marco

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Re: AP has too many Rx neighbors

Hi Marco,
I got the following setup. Do I need to change anything here?
6 Mbps: Disabled
9 Mbps: Disabled
12 Mbps: Mandatory
18 Mbps: Supported
24 Mbps: Mandatory
36, 48, 54 Mbps: Supported
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Re: AP has too many Rx neighbors

Yup, you can kill 12 and 18Mbps since you have a dense deployment. Leave 24 on mandatory.
However, do that with caution for the places where the APs are not so close to each other. 
You can design an RF profile that would navigate certain APs data rates per AP Group.

 

However, I too think, that the signals are not strong enough from the neighboring APs to cause issues. 
See if there aren't any rogues or other wireless devices that can be creating that interference.

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