Lack of RV340 Replacement

[JasonReg416LGK]

So we are approaching inside 3 months until the last software support date for RV340 and still no replacement.  There were rumors (or maybe just wishes?) about a CBR line replacement but I cannot find anything.  I am not interested in Meraki line ...... am I out of affordable options with Cisco?

[marce1000]

 - FYI : https://community.cisco.com/t5/small-business-routers/are-there-any-alternatives-for-the-rv34x-series-now-that-they/td-p/4522211

 M.

[JasonReg416LGK]

Yes, I had seen that almost a year ago.  The point of my question is, will there be a CBR (style) replacement as previously rumored or has Cisco abandoned the notion in favor of other solutions.

[Jitendra Kumar]

ISR for a better fit. If you can afford it.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/routers/1000-series-integrated-services-routers-isr/index.html

[JasonReg416LGK]

Maybe - will take a look but at first glance looks much more complex then the RV Series routers.  Will do some research.

[JasonReg416LGK]

So ....... cricket, cricket .......

Is it safe to assume Cisco is abandoning this segment?

[train_wreck]

In my experience, both at the SOHO level as well as in the enterprise space (CCNP 2021), yes they are exiting this market segment. There are currently lower-cost-ish newer Firepower C10xx models, that are priced a bit higher than the SMB firewalls and have at least some basic level of router/VPN functionality available, but are slightly more complex and are intended more as an NGFW platform, so think oriented towards paid subscriptions for scanning/performace (and IMO Fortinet has been kicking more butt at this level for many years).  These are as close as I expect Cisco to servicing this market. For sure I don't expect any newer devices with the same level of price point, capability and lack of licensing that the RV34xx devices had.

Look elsewhere, friend. Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, Zyxel, etc.....

[JasonReg416LGK]

Sadly, I almost clicked on this response as "Accept as Solution" - meaning of course, there is no solution.  Fingers crossed but not holding my breath any longer.

[GKToronto]

Thanks for starting another thread on this topic. There was another thread at:

https://community.cisco.com/t5/small-business-routers/all-cisco-rv-routers-eol-perhaps-new-cbr-line-coming/td-p/4500232

where "nbutlev" (from Cisco) said "The new business routers release has been announced for this autumn."

but then when I asked for a link to the announcement, there was no reply (yet). Here in Canada, Bell just announced 8 Gbps FTTH is coming soon (in Toronto). All I want is a future-proof (say 3 to 5 years of support) dual WAN router, so I can have failover to a backup connection). At least 1 Gbps WAN, but if they can handle 2.5, 5, or even 10 Gbps, even better. And preferably under $1K (under $500 even better!). The RV340 & 345 models have been fine (they top out at 1Gpbs), but the end-of-life concerns me greatly --- if they would just support it with security updates until the new models are released, that would be acceptable. (and then I won't have to shop for a different brand)

Take my money, please! (LOL)

[train_wreck]

Agree with you in regards to performance, the one bright spot in the RV34xx has been the IPsec performance - 750-800mbps on average for us, certainly when they were released it was quite difficult to find something with that level of throughput outside of custom-built firewalls which are a non-starter in many business scenarios.

When it comes to new devices in the line I'll believe it when I see them

[JasonReg416LGK]

I agree - with a Rogers 1 Gbps service the Rv340 has been perfect and rock solid.  It is just so frustrating to not have a peep out of the company regarding a replacement.  I will keep it to the end of service date but not for much afterwards - just too many things that can go sideways these days so quickly.  

[JasonReg416LGK]

So curious where folks are migrating to.  I am going around in circles but need to make some decisions soon.  Any thoughts from those who have replaced the RV34X routers?  

[train_wreck]

Personally I have been very happy with the smaller Fortinet Fortigate firewalls - I ran a 30E for many years, now am on a 40F. You do have to pay for firmware updates, but if that's all you want it's about $100-200/year per device. They are much more capable devices than the Cisco RVs, technically in the "NGFW" category, so they can do in-depth scanning of all the traffic for security. Those scanning services cost extra per year as well, but they include firmware updates. I think I reupped all of the subscriptions for about $300/year/device. The devices will still function even if you don't pay for/configure the security services. Equivalent devices from other manufacturers include Sonicall TZ, Watchguard Firebox, and Sophos XG.

For something cheaper with mainly just routing/VPN/etc, the Mikrotik Hex S is a nice cheap ~$90 device, not as high throughput as the Cisco on IPsec but it checks a lot of the boxes. Their CLI is rough, however, very proprietary syntax.

[JasonReg416LGK]

Thanks for that post.  Yes, Fortinet is one of the solutions I am looking at closely.  

[CoreyP319 · Accepted solution]

Hello all,

There is currently no CBR in development at this time, there are decisions being made by management regarding this line. As far as I have heard, the recommendation is to go with Meraki Go. I know that wont be helpful to all use cases. I'd love to see a multi-gig product here though. 

Thanks,

Corey