08-05-2020 02:27 PM
Host L1 is connected to switch sw1, Switch S1 is connected t Switch S2, Switch S2 is connected to Router R1, Router R1 is connected Router R2, Router R2 is connected to Host L2. How will communication happen from Host H1 to Host H2?
Tell me the entire procedure from packet level.
Pls, find the network diagram doc below.
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08-05-2020 03:20 PM
08-05-2020 03:56 PM
08-05-2020 03:25 PM - edited 08-05-2020 03:35 PM
Ah, I see you've two postings, different titles, asking much the same. I.e.: https://community.cisco.com/t5/routing/routing-protocols/m-p/4131063
At the packet level, switches are "invisible" to the host and router. As far a they are concerned, the host and router might be directly connected on the same physical wire. I.e. switch S2 does not send any message to R1 (or the converse).
08-05-2020 03:35 PM - edited 08-05-2020 03:44 PM
At the packet level, logically nothing. Again, L2 switches are "invisible" to packets (and packets are "invisible" to "true" L2 switches, beyond being "data" within the frame).
PS:
I also might add, between the host and router, even at L2, the switches are still logically "invisible". However, L2 switches do "operate upon" frames entering them. A "true" L2 (only) switch wouldn't "change" the frame, although it might drop/discard it for various reasons. Smart/enhanced/VLAN switches, might do other "things" to the frame.
08-06-2020 04:24 PM - edited 08-06-2020 04:25 PM
In addition to above excellent information, I would like to add need for ARP frames; Before any host can communicate over the Ethernet, ARP will be sent to neighboring device. ARP does IP to MAC resolution and builds table of such info. This is true for all types of communication from simple ping to web browsing (from L3 thru L7). In case of HTTP, DNS resolution maybe needed as well. So, you will see DNS packets send over.
ARP is Layer 2 protocol while most of other communication will use L3 - L7.
In IP communication, Layer 3 IP address will stay the same during one-way journey from source to destination. While L2 ARP will be re-written by L3 device - such as router- at least twice.
Regards, ML
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08-05-2020 01:06 PM
Hello,
what exactly are you after ? There is no diagram attached. What do you mean by packet level, something like a protocol analyzer (e.g. Wireshark) output ?
08-05-2020 01:20 PM
08-05-2020 03:25 PM - edited 08-05-2020 03:35 PM
Ah, I see you've two postings, different titles, asking much the same. I.e.: https://community.cisco.com/t5/routing/routing-protocols/m-p/4131063
At the packet level, switches are "invisible" to the host and router. As far a they are concerned, the host and router might be directly connected on the same physical wire. I.e. switch S2 does not send any message to R1 (or the converse).
08-05-2020 03:28 PM
Ok. What happens in the link between Host, L1 and Switch S1?
08-05-2020 03:35 PM - edited 08-05-2020 03:44 PM
At the packet level, logically nothing. Again, L2 switches are "invisible" to packets (and packets are "invisible" to "true" L2 switches, beyond being "data" within the frame).
PS:
I also might add, between the host and router, even at L2, the switches are still logically "invisible". However, L2 switches do "operate upon" frames entering them. A "true" L2 (only) switch wouldn't "change" the frame, although it might drop/discard it for various reasons. Smart/enhanced/VLAN switches, might do other "things" to the frame.
08-05-2020 06:23 PM
Thank you.
08-05-2020 03:20 PM
08-05-2020 03:24 PM
Thanks. But pls let me know the L2 and L1 actions too.
I want to know the operation entirely.
08-05-2020 03:56 PM
08-06-2020 04:24 PM - edited 08-06-2020 04:25 PM
In addition to above excellent information, I would like to add need for ARP frames; Before any host can communicate over the Ethernet, ARP will be sent to neighboring device. ARP does IP to MAC resolution and builds table of such info. This is true for all types of communication from simple ping to web browsing (from L3 thru L7). In case of HTTP, DNS resolution maybe needed as well. So, you will see DNS packets send over.
ARP is Layer 2 protocol while most of other communication will use L3 - L7.
In IP communication, Layer 3 IP address will stay the same during one-way journey from source to destination. While L2 ARP will be re-written by L3 device - such as router- at least twice.
Regards, ML
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08-06-2020 07:19 PM
Wonderful explanation. Thank you.
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