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Introduction

This document provides details on how QOS is implemented in the ASR9000 and how to interpret and troubleshoot qos related issues.

 

Core Issue

QOS is always a complex topic and with this article I'll try to describe the QOS architecture and provide some tips for troubleshooting.

Based on feedback on this document I'll keep enhancing it to document more things bsaed on that feedback.

 

The ASR9000 employs an end to end qos architecture throughout the whole system, what that means is that priority is propagated throughout the systems forwarding asics. This is done via backpressure between the different fowarding asics.

One very key aspect of the A9K's qos implementation is the concept of using VOQ's (virtual output queues). Each network processor, or in fact every 10G entity in the system is represented in the Fabric Interfacing ASIC (FIA) by a VOQ on each linecard.

That means in a fully loaded system with say 24 x 10G cards, each linecard having 8 NPU's and 4 FIA's, a total of 192 (24 times 8 slots) VOQ's are represented at each FIA of each linecard.

The VOQ's have 4 different priority levels: Priority 1, Priority 2, Default priority and multicast.

The different priority levels used are assigned on the packets fabric headers (internal headers) and can be set via QOS policy-maps (MQC; modular qos configuration).

When you define a policy-map and apply it to a (sub)interface, and in that policy map certain traffic is marked as priority level 1 or 2 the fabric headers will represent that also, so that this traffic is put in the higher priority queues of the forwarding asics as it traverses the FIA and fabric components.

If you dont apply any QOS configuration, all traffic is considered to be "default" in the fabric queues. In order to leverage the strength of the asr9000's asic priority levels, you will need to configure (ingress) QOS at the ports to apply the priority level desired.

qos-archi.jpg

In this example T0 and T1 are receiving a total of 16G of traffic destined for T0 on the egress linecard. For a 10G port that is obviously too much.

T0 will flow off some of the traffic, depending on the queue, eventually signaling it back to the ingress linecard. While T0 on the ingress linecard also has some traffic for T1 on the egress LC (green), this traffic is not affected and continues to be sent to the destination port.

Resolution

 

The ASR9000 has the ability of 4 levels of qos, a sample configuration and implemenation detail presented in this picture:

 

shared-policy.jpg

 

 

Policer having exceeddrops, not reaching configured rate

 

When defining policers at high(er) rates, make sure the committed burst and excess burst are set correctly.
This is the formula to follow:

Set the Bc to CIR bps * (1 byte) / (8 bits) * 1.5 seconds

and

Be=2xBc

Default burst values are not optimal

Say you are allowing 1 pps, and then 1 second you don’t send anything, but the next second you want to send 2. in that second you’ll see an exceed, to visualize the problem.

 

Alternatively, Bc and Be can be configured in time units, e.g.:

     policy-map OUT

      class EF

       police rate percent 25 burst 250 ms peak-burst 500 ms

 

For viewing the Bc and Be applied in hardware, run the "show qos interface interface [input|output]".

 

 

Why do I see non-zero values for Queue(conform) and Queue(exceed) in show policy-map commands?

On the ASR9k, every HW queue has a configured CIR and PIR value. These correspond to the "guaranteed" bandwidth for the queue, and the "maximum" bandwidth (aka shape rate) for the queue.

In some cases the user-defined QoS policy does NOT explicitly use both of these.  However, depending on the exact QoS config the queueing hardware may require some nonzero value for these fields.  Here, the system will choose a default value for the queue CIR.  The "conform" counter in show policy-map is the number of packets/bytes that were transmitted within this CIR value, and the "exceed" value is the number of packets/bytes that were transmitted within the PIR value.

Note that "exceed" in this case does NOT equate to a packet drop, but rather a packet that is above the CIR rate on that queue.

You could change this behavior by explicitly configuring a bandwidth and/or a shape rate on each queue, but in general it's just easier to recognize that these counters don't apply to your specific situation and ignore them.

 

What is counted in QOS policers and shapers?

 

When we define a shaper in a qos pmap, the shaper takes the L2 header into consideration.

The shape rate defined of say 1Mbps would mean that if I have no dot1q or qinq, I can technically send more IP traffic then having a QIQ which has more L2 overhead. When I define a bandwidth statement in a class, same applies, also L2 is taken into consideration.

When defining a policer, it looks at L2 also.

In Ingress, for both policer & shaper, we use the incoming packet size (including the L2 header).

In order to account the L2 header in ingress shaper case, we have to use a TM overhead accounting feature, that will only let us add overhead in 4 byte granularity, which can cause a little inaccuracy.

In egress, for both policer & shaper we use the outgoing packet size (including the L2 header).

 

ASR9K Policer implementation supports 64Kbps granularity. When a rate specified is not a multiple of 64Kbps the rate would be rounded down to the next lower 64Kbps rate.

 

For policing, shaping, BW command for ingress/egress direction the following fields are included in the accounting.

 

MAC DA

MAC SA

EtherType

VLANs..

L3 headers/payload

CRC

 

Port level shaping

Shaping action requires a queue on which the shaping is applied. This queue must be created by a child level policy. Typically shaper is applied at parent or grandparent level, to allow for differentiation between traffic classes within the shaper. If there is a need to apply a flat port-level shaper, a child policy should be configured with 100% bandwidth explicitly allocated to class-default.

Understanding show policy-map counters

 

QOS counters and show interface drops:

 

Policer counts are directly against the (sub)interface and will get reported on the "show interface" drops count.
The drop counts you see are an aggregate of what the NP has dropped (in most cases) as well as policer drops.

 

Packets that get dropped before the policer is aware of them are not accounted for by the policy-map policer drops but may
show under the show interface drops and can be seen via the show controllers np count command.

 

Policy-map queue drops are not reported on the subinterface drop counts.
The reason for that is that subinterfaces may share queues with each other or the main interface and therefore we don’t
have subinterface granularity for queue related drops.

 

 

Counters come from the show policy-map interface command

 

 

Class name as per   configuration Class   precedence6
Statistics for this class   Classification statistics          (packets/bytes)     (rate - kbps)
Packets that were matched     Matched             :            31583572/2021348608           764652
packets that were sent to the wire     Transmitted         : Un-determined
packets that were dropped for any reason   in this class     Total Dropped       : Un-determined
Policing stats   Policing statistics                (packets/bytes)     (rate - kbps)
Packets that were below the CIR rate     Policed(conform)    :            31583572/2021348608           764652
Packets that fell into the 2nd bucket   above CIR but < PIR     Policed(exceed)     :                   0/0                    0
Packets that fell into the 3rd bucket   above PIR     Policed(violate)    :                   0/0                    0
Total packets that the policer dropped     Policed and dropped :                   0/0
Statistics for Q'ing   Queueing statistics  <<<----
Internal unique queue reference     Queue ID                             : 136

how many packets were q'd/held at max one   time

(value not supported by HW)

    High watermark  (Unknown)

number of 512-byte particles which are currently

waiting in the queue

    Inst-queue-len  (packets)            : 4096

how many packets on average we have to   buffer

(value not supported by HW)

    Avg-queue-len   (Unknown)

packets that could not be buffered   because we held

more then the max length

    Taildropped(packets/bytes)           : 31581615/2021223360
see description above (queue exceed section)     Queue(conform)      :            31581358/2021206912           764652
see description above (queue exceed section)     Queue(exceed)       :                   0/0                    0

Packets subject to Randon Early detection

and were dropped.

    RED random drops(packets/bytes)      : 0/0

 

 

Understanding the hardware qos output

 

RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:A9K-TOP#show qos interface g0/0/0/0 output

 

With this command the actual hardware programming can be verified of the qos policy on the interface

(not related to the output from the previous example above)


Tue Mar  8 16:46:21.167 UTC
Interface: GigabitEthernet0_0_0_0 output
Bandwidth configured: 1000000 kbps Bandwidth programed: 1000000
ANCP user configured: 0 kbps ANCP programed in HW: 0 kbps
Port Shaper programed in HW: 0 kbps
Policy: Egress102 Total number of classes: 2
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Level: 0 Policy: Egress102 Class: Qos-Group7
QueueID: 2 (Port Default)
Policer Profile: 31 (Single)
Conform: 100000 kbps (10 percent) Burst: 1248460 bytes (0 Default)
Child Policer Conform: TX
Child Policer Exceed: DROP
Child Policer Violate: DROP
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Level: 0 Policy: Egress102 Class: class-default
QueueID: 2 (Port Default)
----------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

Default Marking behavior of the ASR9000

 

If you don't configure any service policies for QOS, the ASR9000 will set an internal cos value based on the IP Precedence, 802.1 Priority field or the mpls EXP bits.

Depending on the routing or switching scenario, this internal cos value will be used to do potential marking on newly imposed headers on egress.

 

Scenario 1

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Scenario 2

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Scenario 3

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Scenario 4

 

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Scenario 5

 

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Scenario 6

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Special consideration:

If the node is L3 forwarding, then there is no L2 CoS propagation or preservation as the L2 domain stops at the incoming interface and restarts at the outgoing interface.

Default marking PHB on L3 retains no L2 CoS information even if the incoming interface happened to be an 802.1q or 802.1ad/q-in-q sub interface.

CoS may appear to be propagated, if the corresponding L3 field (prec/dscp) used for default marking matches the incoming CoS value and so, is used as is for imposed L2 headers at egress.

 

If the node is L2 switching, then the incoming L2 header will be preserved unless the node has ingress or egress rewrites configured on the EFPs.
If an L2 rewrite results in new header imposition, then the default marking derived from the 3-bit PCP (as specified in 802.1p) on the incoming EFP is used to mark the new headers.

 

An exception to the above is that the DEI bit value from incoming 802.1ad / 802.1ah headers is propagated to imposed or topmost 802.1ad / 802.1ah headers for both L3 and L2 forwarding;

 

Related Information

ASR9000 Quality of Service configuration guide

 

Xander Thuijs, CCIE #6775

 

Comments
xthuijs
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

Hi Carlos,

ah yeah, that issue is precisely what the error message tells you. In a policy-map you can only have 6 shaped classes and a PQ. The the total number of classes is more then 6, but the extra ones can only be markers or policers.

The -L cards have 8 Qs per port.Phy port that is. So if you have a pmap with 4 shaped classes, you can apply that to 2 subinterfaces off the same PHY.

xander

Carlos T
Level 1
Level 1

Thanks Xander,

Just comparing the properties and understanding the differences of the low queue linecards of the asr9k and the FP-140 of the CRS-3.

In the asr9k, the low queue linecard has support for 8 queues per port, but of those 8 queues, a maximum of 6 "normal priority" queues can be used, including the queue used by the class-default. For example, we cannot have more than 5 configured class-maps each with the "bandwidth" command.

At the FP-140 of the CRS, the low queue has support for 8 queues per port, but it can support more than 6 "normal priority" queues, what it means is that we can have a policy-map with for example 6 configured class-maps each with "bandwidth" command + the class-default.

chatasos
Level 1
Level 1

Hi Xander?

Can you share the size (ms) of the VOQ buffer? Does this depend on RSP model?

Is this one VOQ per pair of ingress fabric interface <=> eggress NPU combination?

Regards,

Tassos

xthuijs
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

Hi Tassos!

there is 2x32M in the FIA of buffer mem available. Shared between all VOQ's.

If the egress NP is overloaded and starts to apply backpressure the ingress linecards will happily use the FIA's buffer space when the backpressure is being propagated to the ingress NP.

The FIA on an LC has a VOQ for *each* of the egress NP's (trident) in the system (or per 10G on Typhoon/NP4 linecards, since there are multiple 10G's sharing an NP on the next gen linecards).

xander

waleedmatter
Level 1
Level 1

Hi Alex,

So if i have link connected to one port of LCard and this port configured as sub interfaces from the customer side (5 customers )and each customer has 5 classes (business ,video ,IPTV ,Low_current ,high business)  with different bandwidth precenatge so it mean i need 5x5=25  queue or i need only 5 queses because it is the same type of class but take cars it is different in bandwidth

i am waiting y reply

xthuijs
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

That is correct Waleed:

If you apply this same service policy to each subinterface, that has a 5 queue configuration, you will need 25 queues

total. The L-queue card (trident) or the TR-card (typhoon) won't fit that purpose then.

xander

jolomeli
Community Member

Hi Xander,

In the section "What is counted is QoS policers ans shapers?

You mention that Layer 2 fields are counted.

Do you know if this is the same behavior for other IOS-XR platforms CRS, XR12K?

Regards,

Jose

xthuijs
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

Hi Jose, they should is my call, because it is overhead that a shaper needs to be aware of otherwise it is very painful to shape to the right value as you'd be sending too much (if L2 OH is omitted) potentially down the wire for that circuit.

The implementation is very hardware specific and I dont know the PSE's of the CRS too well to give you a definitive answer, same for the GSR that has many different engine types that may (or may not) have different behavior.

I'll set out the question to the CRS and GSR guys and will report back when I have conclusion for you.

xander

jolomeli
Community Member

Hi Xander,

I´ll appreciate it.

My customer has ASR9K,CRS, and XR12K.

They would like to know if all IOS-XR platformas follow the same QoS policing/shapping behavior.

Jose

xthuijs
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

I just got word that for the GSR before engine 5 it was not included and  not accounted for and Engine 5 onward it is a configurable option to  include overhead accounting.

GSR CLI is hw-module slot slot-number qos account layer2 encapsulation {arpa dot1q length }

Will report back when I have the CRS details. (this is on the next page)

xander

xthuijs
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

On CRS, the Metro linecard by default, it's L3 accounting. But on msc-140 and FP-140 linecards, by default it's layer-all that includes layer-1 header (20 bytes) and layer-2 header. There is an option added in 4.2.1 (or that about), where you can change the qos accounting per policy per direction.

GSR, the E5 linecards are Layer-2 accounting by default, but you can change it to Layer-3 per policy.

GSR E3 ingress is layer-3 accounting; but E3 egress you may turn on the L2 accounting and define the L2 header size per linecard basis.

interface TenGigE0/2/0/7

service-policy input p1 account nolayer2

service-policy output p1 account layer2

Tthe ingress shaping might not account for L2 overhead on the MSC because we strip off the L2 overhead on the ingress PSE. So L2 overhead is used in all cases except ingress shaping.

all set?

regards

xander

xthuijs
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

CRS engineering came back with a very nice overview I thought was very useful so let me add it here also:

Packet length used during QoS

Following tables show the packet length used during QoS for various accounting options.

On MSC-40/FP-40 LC:

Configured   Accounting option

Ingress

Egress

Policing

Queuing

Statistics

Policing

Queuing

Statistics

Default

Layer-2

Layer-3*

Layer-2

Layer-2

Layer-2

Layer-2

Layer2

Layer-2

Layer-3*

Layer-2

Layer-2

Layer-2

Layer-2

NoLayer2

Layer-3

Layer-3*

Layer-3

Layer-3

Layer-2

Layer-3

* Ingress shaping is based on the Layer-3 packet as received on the ingress interface and any labels added by ingress PSE before sending towards Fabric.

Note that on MSC-40/FP-40 LC, configured accounting option does not take effect for queuing due to hardware limitation (see note made earlier)

On MSC-140/FP-140 LC,

Configured   Accounting option

Ingress and Egress

Policing

Queuing

Statistics

Default

Layer-all

Layer-all

Layer-2

Layer2

Layer-2

Layer-2

Layer-2

NoLayer2

Layer-3

Layer-3

Layer-3

Pedro Morais
Level 1
Level 1

Hi Xander,

I'm doing some tests with "child-conform-aware" future, and getting some strange behavior either in Trident and Thypoon based HW. Software version is 4.2.3 P and PX respectively (+SMUs).

The policy-map I'm trying to apply is the following:

policy-map POL_IN_parent_L2_NG1_2M

class class-default

  service-policy SCH_IN_child_L2_NG1_BWRANGE1

  police rate 2048 kbps

   child-conform-aware

   conform-action transmit

   exceed-action drop

  !

!

end-policy-map

!

!

!

policy-map SCH_IN_child_L2_NG1_BWRANGE1

class EDGE-L2-VOICE

  police rate percent 45

   conform-action set mpls experimental imposition 5

   exceed-action drop

  !

  priority level 1

!

class EDGE-L2-VIDEO

  police rate percent 45

   conform-action set mpls experimental imposition 4

   exceed-action drop

  !

  priority level 2

!

class EDGE-L2-HIGH

  set mpls experimental imposition 3

!

class EDGE-L2-MED

  set mpls experimental imposition 2

!

class EDGE-L2-LOW

  set mpls experimental imposition 1

!

class EDGE-L2-BE-NG1

  set mpls experimental imposition 0

!

class EDGE-L2-ROUTING

  set mpls experimental imposition 3

!

class class-default

!

end-policy-map

The error messages I’m getting are the following:

1. Trident HW (A9K-40GE-B and A9K-4T-B)

interface GigabitEthernet0/0/0/6.102

service-policy input POL_IN_parent_L2_NG1_2M

!!% 'qos-ea' detected the 'warning' condition 'child-conform-aware policer is not supported in this line-card'

!

end

QUESTION: Why is this not supported in Trident HW? It was introduced  back in  4.0.0...

2. Thypoon HW (A9K-2x100GE-SE and A9K-24x10GE-SE)

interface HundredGigE0/0/0/0.3

service-policy input POL_IN_parent_L2_NG1_2M

!!% 'qos-ea' detected the 'warning' condition 'Policer required on all conform-aware child classes'

!

end

QUESTION: Do I need to have a policer configured in every child class? If yes, why?

Thanks.

Cheers,

Pedro

xthuijs
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

Hi Pedro,

SIP700 was the first LC that supported this, not on trident.

Trident doesnt support it due to ucode space limitations.

You need policers on every class because the parent needs to know whether something was marked green or yellow by the child.

if there is no color on it by the child, the parent doesnt know whether it was within the CIR or outside of it.

cheers

xander

Pedro Morais
Level 1
Level 1

Hi Xander,

Thanks for your prompt reply.

Regarding question 1, all clear.

About question 2, I don't understand your answer. Why do I need the policer in all the classes if I just want to set the experimental bit in some of them? Any suggestion on how to adapt my config to make this work?

Thanks!

Cheers,

Pedro

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