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design guide and installation help for branches

Dear,

i have been looking everywhere for assistance on the below issue, ill list it in details fo ryour guidance.

we are looking to deploy 16 cameras in 8 different remote branches, there is a WAN connectivity between the branches and a VPN tunnel for interbranch data communication (also assume the WAN provider is doing the routing for us, so the branches are all in the same pool, if a VPN is not found for example).

my question is the following: can we install the SMVMS (free software) in the Head quarter where all the branches are linked, and be able to discover and monitor the IP Cameras? moreover, can we have the IP Cameras record the video and audio in their own location, but stream the live video to the HQ?

is there a need for the AVMS here or this can be done with SMVMS?

finally, if we have more than 16 cameras, lets say 32 cameras in all remote locations, can we instal 2 instances of the SMVMS on different PCs and point each to seperate 16 cameras, thus removeing the need to upgrade to the Basic or Advanced software?

thank you in advance

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Re: design guide and installation help for branches

The small business cameras allow multiple simultaneous connections so yes, can be monitored from more than one location. Thats what the monitoring SW does, and can work through firewalls with port forwarding rules, but best with VPN routing of course.

The cameras can also send captured data to a destination of your choice in addition to the monitoring (FTP or file share on a Cisco NAS, or an SMTP mail server with a motion detected capture.

You should look at the datasheet for AVMS and start with it (time bomb license) so you can decide if you want to buy the license. If you don't, then it reverts to SWVMS16. There ate many capabilities it has that could make your design and capabilities improved.

Steve DiStefano

Technical Solutions Architect - Partner Sales, USA

Cisco Systems

7025 Kit Creek Road

Research Triangle Park

North Carolina, 27709

1.919.392.6219

sdistef@cisco. com

www.cisco.com/smb

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Re: design guide and installation help for branches

There are two unique streams that can be setup with unique resoltuion, codec, quality settings, etc.

Up to ten unicast users can login to view the camera video streams.  On the VC220/PVC300/VC240, You are able to select which stream you are viewing through a simpe client setting within the browser.  (number of users is different from number of video streams)

You can install SWVMS16 at the local branch and at HQ.  You can have each site login to the camera.  (Again, up to 10 unicast users can login to the camera at once.)  Each site can be configured to record the video.

You'll need to make sure you have enough WAN bandwidth to accomplish what you are trying to do.

We have a reference calculator posted online to help with evaluating storage and bandwidth requriements.

http://www.cisco.com/go/avms-calculator

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Re: design guide and installation help for branches

The small business cameras allow multiple simultaneous connections so yes, can be monitored from more than one location. Thats what the monitoring SW does, and can work through firewalls with port forwarding rules, but best with VPN routing of course.

The cameras can also send captured data to a destination of your choice in addition to the monitoring (FTP or file share on a Cisco NAS, or an SMTP mail server with a motion detected capture.

You should look at the datasheet for AVMS and start with it (time bomb license) so you can decide if you want to buy the license. If you don't, then it reverts to SWVMS16. There ate many capabilities it has that could make your design and capabilities improved.

Steve DiStefano

Technical Solutions Architect - Partner Sales, USA

Cisco Systems

7025 Kit Creek Road

Research Triangle Park

North Carolina, 27709

1.919.392.6219

sdistef@cisco. com

www.cisco.com/smb

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Re: design guide and installation help for branches

Hi Steven,

you hit it wisely with the (time bomb license) for SMBs, the AVMS might not be a good idea price wise, unless they need to monitor all cameras on one PC and to have all the advanced features as well.

my 2 last (hopefully) questions here is the following, if you can help please,

i know the SMVMS and IP Cameras provide only 2 simultaneous streams. so one would be for viewing in the SMVMS in HQ and the other to store locally in each branch, if one is to log into the IP Camear using  web view, would this also work as the 3rd stream? or one of the streams will stop?

finally, can we have SMVMS in the local branch and HQ for the same IP Cameras? thus giving 2 people the ability to view the Cameras and store them as well?

many thanks for your replies.

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Re: design guide and installation help for branches

There are two unique streams that can be setup with unique resoltuion, codec, quality settings, etc.

Up to ten unicast users can login to view the camera video streams.  On the VC220/PVC300/VC240, You are able to select which stream you are viewing through a simpe client setting within the browser.  (number of users is different from number of video streams)

You can install SWVMS16 at the local branch and at HQ.  You can have each site login to the camera.  (Again, up to 10 unicast users can login to the camera at once.)  Each site can be configured to record the video.

You'll need to make sure you have enough WAN bandwidth to accomplish what you are trying to do.

We have a reference calculator posted online to help with evaluating storage and bandwidth requriements.

http://www.cisco.com/go/avms-calculator

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Re: design guide and installation help for branches

Hi again,

i have the link you suggested Doishi, thank you.

you have opened my eyes to something we were thinking about, the issue of monitoring many cameras in the HQ, would surely require alot of WAN bandwith.storing the video locally is not a big deal as we can store on 320x240 with mpeg4 and either 10FPS, 5FPS or even 1FPS to limit the storing in every branch or higher if they have a big HDD space.

but can we have the monitoring software (SMVMS) in the HQ get stills, rather than Video, from the Branches? in other words can it be programmed to get a single image from each camera every 3 seconds or 5 seconds? thus limiting the bandiwtdh usage. or we need the AVMS, or this is not possible at all?

another work around would be to limit to a single camera per site viewing in the HQ, with 1 FPS and lowest bandwidth used, which would amount to roughly 31Kbps need per camera, and thus very feasible.

the problem with getting stills or low FPS in the HQ would be if they choose to deploy a PTZ camera, but then they have the option of upgrading the bandwidth for such needs.

another idea, if doable, is to have the SMVMS change the feed from branch to branch based on a time scale, for example show Branch 1 (3 cameras) for 20 seconds, then remove Brance 1, and goto Branch 2 with 2 IP Cameras, then remove Branch 2, goto Branch 3 for 1 IP Camera, and so on, then the viewer can simply click on the branch or camera he needs to monitor for more time and do the PTZ if needed, before going back to the rotating cycle. is this doable?

looking forward to your proffsional answer(s) on the stills or rotating camera idea...

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Re: design guide and installation help for branches

Hi,

can we have the monitoring software (SMVMS) in the HQ get stills,  rather than Video, from the Branches? in other words can it be  programmed to get a single image from each camera every 3 seconds or 5  seconds? thus limiting the bandiwtdh usage. or we need the AVMS, or this  is not possible at all?

>> Remember you have two video stream that are configurable on the camera.  You can set one to settings for the local SWVMS16 and one for the remote HQ settings (lower resolution, framerate, etc.).

another  work around would be to limit to a single camera per site viewing in  the HQ, with 1 FPS and lowest bandwidth used, which would amount to  roughly 31Kbps need per camera, and thus very feasible.

>> All of the video monitoring software is configured to look at the video streams... There is no configuration to pull still images.  There is an API for that, but not built into AVMS/SWVMS since that is not a primary use case.

another  idea, if doable, is to have the SMVMS change the feed from branch to  branch based on a time scale, for example show Branch 1 (3 cameras) for  20 seconds, then remove Brance 1, and goto Branch 2 with 2 IP Cameras,  then remove Branch 2, goto Branch 3 for 1 IP Camera, and so on, then the  viewer can simply click on the branch or camera he needs to monitor for  more time and do the PTZ if needed, before going back to the rotating  cycle. is this doable?

>> You can rotate what you are looking at in the application, but not completely to log-off from the cameras.  This is do-able with a custom viewing application, but what you are asking is not possible today.