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Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

Hi,

 

I'm searching for a replacement of a C2960X stack, small company with only 2 switches. I was thinking about the 9200 line, but when calling TechData they told me I need to purchase yearly DNA license for it. My thought was, ok, there is Essentials and Advantage, these should be perpetual, but why do I need all the DNA or SD-WAN access stuff what ever. The customer doesn't need fancy guy or central management, just a stack and a CLI :)

 

Do I really need to sell them yearly licenses for switches where only 1% of features are used? (Vlan, trunk, port-security, stacking)

 

Thanks

Michael

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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

You dont need to use DNA it just comes as the pack in license , these will work fine for pure layer 2 switches , stacking i thought was only from 9300s up though , i dont think 9200 support it

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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

I finally have an answer from official distro:

 

Regarding DNA license you have to buy the 3year license -A or -E (it's obligatory) no matter if you are using DNA/SD-access or not. So if you just want to use the CLI like with a 2960-X or whatever, you have to buy a 3 year licesene, but you don't have to renew it

 

I really have no idea who at Cisco had this idea and hope this is not the way Cisco goes for every switch. Can't imagine there are so many ppl out there willing to pay yearly license fees for a switch.

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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

Yes unfortunately the lowest license you can get is essentials which includes DNA too , we are in same position were purchasing them but have no requirement yet for DNA subscriptions

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/software/one-wireless-subscription/nb-06-dna-acces-wl-sw-faq-ctp-en.pdf
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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

But I can configure and use these switches just as the 2960X via CLI?
No need to install anything? I'm a bit afraid I then have to install DNA, but then I need smartnet for DNA to get the download and so on ...
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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

You dont need to use DNA it just comes as the pack in license , these will work fine for pure layer 2 switches , stacking i thought was only from 9300s up though , i dont think 9200 support it

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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

Sorry, I marked this as resolved but it's not true. DNA is obligatory and Stacking is only available via advanced, not essential.
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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

Can you confirm that 9200 support stacking in DNA advantage? 

Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

Physical stacking is supported for 9200 on NE,NA advantage license.

Beginner

Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

Stacking not available in essentials?

 

Uh-oh - I'm in trouble then... I have 66 stacks of up to 4 switches each like this one

 

SW01#sh inventory
NAME: "c92xx Stack", DESCR: "c92xx Stack"
PID: C9200-48P-E , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "Switch 1", DESCR: "C9200-48P-E"
PID: C9200-48P-E , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "StackPort1/1", DESCR: "StackPort1/1"
PID: STACK-T4-50CM , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "StackPort1/2", DESCR: "StackPort1/2"
PID: STACK-T4-50CM , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "StackAdapter1/1", DESCR: "StackAdapter1/1"
PID: C9200-STACK , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "StackAdapter1/2", DESCR: "StackAdapter1/2"
PID: C9200-STACK , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "Switch 1 - Power Supply A", DESCR: "Switch 1 - Power Supply A"
PID: PWR-C5-1KWAC , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "Switch 2", DESCR: "C9200-48P-E"
PID: C9200-48P-E , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "StackPort2/1", DESCR: "StackPort2/1"
PID: STACK-T4-50CM , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "StackPort2/2", DESCR: "StackPort2/2"
PID: STACK-T4-50CM , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "StackAdapter2/1", DESCR: "StackAdapter2/1"
PID: C9200-STACK , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "StackAdapter2/2", DESCR: "StackAdapter2/2"
PID: C9200-STACK , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

NAME: "Switch 2 - Power Supply A", DESCR: "Switch 2 - Power Supply A"
PID: PWR-C5-1KWAC , VID: V01 , SN: Jxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

I installed a 9200-E stack some weeks ago, it also worked with Essential License. 

Have to recheck the docs, I'm quite sure -A was listed as a requirement, but maybe for a different class.

 

So, DNA-3 year is required but you don't have to renew it (says the distribution), for stacking in 9200 -E is ok.

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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

NA is needed for Virtual stacking only.

 

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In Summary

Physical Stacking will work with both NE and NE.

Virtual stacking will work only with NA.

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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

Hi Michael,

 

The this link details the licencing for the 9000 series and states:

 

The base licensing package includes the Network Essentials and Network Advantage licensing options that are tied to the hardware. Between them, the base licensing packages cover switching fundamentals, management automation, troubleshooting, and advanced switching features. These base licenses are perpetual.

●     The add-on licensing package includes the Cisco DNA Essentials and Cisco DNA Advantage options. In addition to on-box capabilities, the features available with this package provide Cisco innovations on the switch, as well as on Cisco DNA Center in the APIC-EM. The Cisco DNA add-on licenses are available as a subscription.

So from that if you order with the Network Essentials and Network Advantage NOT the DNA version then you get the perpetual licencing you require.

 

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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

TechData tells me I have to order DNA yearly license .. no idea whom to trust :)
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Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

ask them about the base license below , tell them you dont want the add ons, i know there were changes again to this system in January of this year as our quotes all changed as we re-did them

Also check this specific 9200 license doc says its mandatory on 9200

How to Order a Cisco Catalyst 9200 Series switch
Both Network Stack licenses and Cisco DNA licenses are mandatory at the time of purchase and
come in two licensing tier options: Essentials (-E) and Advantage (-A). Network Stack Essentials or
Advantage is included with the hardware, while a Cisco DNA term license needs to be selected at the
time of order.
To order in the Cisco Commerce Workspace, follow these steps:
1.
Select the appropriate Catalyst 9200 Series switch SKU with “-E” or “-A” device for the desired
license type.
2.
Choose the preferred consumption model - Cisco DNA Premier, Advantage or Essentials.
3.
Choose the Cisco DNA term license (3, 5 or 7 years).
4.
Add other components (for example secondary power supply, power cables, e

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-9200-series-switches/nb-06-cat9200-swit-ser-cte-en.pdf

Packaging: Network and Cisco DNA Licensing

The Cisco Catalyst 9000 family of switches introduces a new and simplified licensing package in the form of base and add-on licenses.

● The base licensing package includes the Network Essentials and Network Advantage licensing options that are tied to the hardware. Between them, the base licensing packages cover switching fundamentals, management automation, troubleshooting, and advanced switching features. These base licenses are perpetual.

● The add-on licensing package includes the Cisco DNA Premier, Cisco DNA Advantage and Cisco DNA Essentials options. In addition to on-box capabilities, the features available with this package provide Cisco innovations on the switch, as well as on Cisco DNA Center. The Cisco DNA add-on licenses are available as a subscription.
Beginner

Re: Catalyst 9200 license needed for plain switching?

Thanks, this topic isn't at all clear.

I'm hopeful that we can use the perpetual license for a customer.

 

Cisco docs don't help tho', and are clearly contradictory - 1 doc says you have 2 flavours, DNA or non-DNA of both Essentials and Advantage. The other doc says there is Essentials (DNA & non-DNA), OR Advantage (DNA & non-DNA).

Links :-

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-9200-series-switches/nb-06-cat9200-swit-ser-cte-en.pdf

states;

-E  ESSENTIALS - Network Essentials, or Cisco DNA Essentials

-A  ADVANTAGE - Network Advantage, or Cisco DNA Advantage

 

The other doc,

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-9000/bulletin-c25-740149.html

says this;

Program Summary

The Cisco Catalyst IOS Software Update Program (formerly the “IOS Software Update Policy”) was put in place to complement the warranty used with this product line – Enhanced Limited Lifetime Warranty for Cisco Catalyst 9200, 9300, 9400, and 9500 Series.

 These switches use a new 2-tier software licensing model:
 (i) Network Essentials or Network Advantage (the “Network Stack”) and
 (ii) Cisco DNA Essentials or Cisco DNA Advantage (the “Cisco DNA Stack”).

The Network Stack is licensed on a perpetual basis, whereas the Cisco DNA Stack is licensed on a subscription basis.

This Program applies to Cisco ONE™ license purchases as well as to a-la-carte license purchases.

 

So which model is it ??

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