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Easy question! 1841 Router

shelly_ratliff
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I don't know ANYTHING about routers and my boss wants to know why we have what looks to be 2 T1 lines going into the 1841 router and only 1 network cable coming out to the network. I don't have a clue but am thinking maybe its a redundancy thing?

I have attached a couple of pictures showing the router and cables.

The red cable is plugged into the port labeled FE 0/0 and the other end of it goes into my network hub/switch.

The blue cables are plugged into slots 0 and 1 which are labeled T1 DSU/CSU. The other end of those cables are plugged into T1 lines.

He wants to know why we can't just get rid of one of the T1 lines!

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You're correct. The dual bonded T1 will provide 3 Mbps vs. FastEthernet's 100 Mbps so you would normally expect the WAN to bottleneck first. (BTW: However, Ethernet could be running at 10 Mbps - if 10, and if at half duplex, 3 Mbps could stain the Ethernet connection.)

Shelly

I made the point in a previous post that there is significant imbalance between the bandwidth of your LAN (perhaps 100 Mbps) and the bandwidth of the existing (2*T1) WAN, wich at its very best is 3 Mbps. If your boss eliminates a T1 he is cutting one half of the bandwidth to the Internet.

I sympathesize that he may believe that T1 is "big". Some of us who started with dial up circuits and with switched 56K circuits used to think of T1 as "big" (yes I know that I am dating myself). Is there a diplomatic way to tell him that the environment has changed? T1 is no longer "big". The arithmetic is quite plain: the LAN (at 10 Mbps or 100 Mbps) is somewhere between 3 and 33 times more than the current WAN (at 3 Mbps). And eliminating the second T1 makes it much worse.

HTH

Rick

HTH

Rick

Shelly

In the short term it may be that you now have sufficient information to give your boss some answers to his question. Points that you could make about why you do not want to remove the "extra" T1 include:

- loss of bandwidth for access to the outside world.

- loss of redundancy in the connection to outside.

- introduction of a significant single point of failure in the network (a T1 is much more likely to suffer a problem which interrupts transmission of data than is the router, your hub/switch, or your LAN network).

In the longer term I would worry about having a router which provides network connectivity and which you do not know how to access or to manage.

We could probably figure out the IP address of the FE interface of the router. It is probably the default gateway of the switch, or if your network is a single VLAN network (flat network) it is likely that your PC default gateway is the router interface address. But unless the previous consultant used some very obvious passwords, as suggested in a previous post, you will probably need to do the password recovery procedure on your router. We could provide you with links to documentation describing how to do it, or you might want to ask your boss to provide some funds so that you could engage a consultant to come in and assist with this. (It is not difficult once you know what you are doing, but it may be a bit daunting to someone who knows little or nothing about Cisco routers).

HTH

Rick

HTH

Rick

Thank you and everyone for your input. I agree, having such an important internet/network interface that no one knows how to support is nuts! I will get a Cisco Consultant out here to document this very important piece of the network puzzle.