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Is "Too large frames" a problem ?

Fabri_Fabri
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Some colleagues notified me that RDP connection they are using hiccups. Windows draw after a second and so on.

Those colleagues are in a branch office connected to a 2960s that is also connected to a 2960 located in headquarter office via dedicated link, using TRUNK.

Both uplink trunk switches are forced to 100Mb full duplex because of layer1 appliance of the provider.

Investigating a bit using "sh controllers ethernet-controller" turns out that uplink trunk interfaces of both switches report a lot of "Too large frames".

MTU size of 2960 is 1500.

QoS is disabled.

CPU seems ok (40/60)

Can you please help me to diagnose and fix this behavior ?

Thanks for help.

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Please share 

 

sh int <>

sh int <> counters errors

 

Thanks,

Madhu

 

Are both sides MTU 1500?

 

 

Both 2960 are MTU 1500.

Don't know the SDH layer 1 MTU size appliance though.

Is the output drops increasing continually? Configure Load interval on the interface to 30 sec so that we can have a much better view of how much traffic traversing over it.

 

 

Also is it possible to increase the MTU on both sides just to check if that solves this problem?

 

Thanks,

Madhu

Since it is 2960 you have to apply system mtu jumbo globally and requires a reload. 

Thanks,

Madhu

Will enabling jumbo mtu disrupt something ?

Is it a safe fix ?

Thanks !!!

Hi,

is it load-interval 3 30 ? or load-interval 1 30 ?

This is the HQ uplink interface:
 

switch48-04#sh interfaces gigabitEthernet 1/0/43
GigabitEthernet1/0/43 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
  Hardware is Gigabit Ethernet, address is b4e9.b099.352b (bia b4e9.b099.352b)
  Description: TRUNK
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100000 Kbit/sec, DLY 100 usec,
     reliability 255/255, txload 5/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, media type is 10/100/1000BaseTX
  input flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input never, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 22653480
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 388000 bits/sec, 303 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 1977000 bits/sec, 660 packets/sec
     415966026 packets input, 149124634477 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 7321375 broadcasts (5696260 multicasts)
     0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
     0 watchdog, 5696260 multicast, 0 pause input
     0 input packets with dribble condition detected
     1018735876 packets output, 604726049775 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 1 interface resets
     0 unknown protocol drops
     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 pause output
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
    
    
Port        Align-Err     FCS-Err    Xmit-Err     Rcv-Err  UnderSize  OutDiscards
Gi1/0/43            0           0           0           0          0     22653480

Port      Single-Col  Multi-Col   Late-Col  Excess-Col  Carri-Sen      Runts     Giants
Gi1/0/43           0          0          0           0          0          0          0

 

And this is the branch office uplink interface:
 

switch48-07#sh int gigabitEthernet 1/0/48
GigabitEthernet1/0/48 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
  Hardware is Gigabit Ethernet, address is ece1.a9ae.08b0 (bia ece1.a9ae.08b0)
  Description: TRUNK
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100000 Kbit/sec, DLY 100 usec,
     reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 7/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, media type is 10/100/1000BaseTX
  input flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input never, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:54:35
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 3132000 bits/sec, 1204 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 426000 bits/sec, 353 packets/sec
     1874124 packets input, 866594668 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 264680 broadcasts (229880 multicasts)
     0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
     0 watchdog, 229880 multicast, 0 pause input
     0 input packets with dribble condition detected
     1115200 packets output, 189351650 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
     0 unknown protocol drops
     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 pause output
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
    
Port        Align-Err     FCS-Err    Xmit-Err     Rcv-Err  UnderSize  OutDiscards
Gi1/0/48            0           0           0           0          0            0

Port      Single-Col  Multi-Col   Late-Col  Excess-Col  Carri-Sen      Runts     Giants
Gi1/0/48           0          0          0           0          0          0          0

Please note that reset counter on Gi1/0/48 interface to see errors increase.

The interface 1/0/43 shows lot of output drops.

 

Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 22653480

 

Can you please check the interface utilization graph to see you are not oversubscribing it.

 

Thanks,

Madhu

 

 

That interface is the uplink trunk to other office.

Where can I check the utilization graph and hwo to understand if oversubscribing it ?

I browsed switch via http and did this shot. Frames seem too big.

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