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VSS in a C9500 pair, Really No Stop?

Have a customer that hasn't had good experiences with VSS upgrades not being completely non-disruptive to their operations in a WS-C4500X configuration.

Looking at a pair of new C9500-48Y switches in a VSS configuration vs a C9407R with dual Sups.

Can I really upgrade one of the C9500 without disrupting operations of the other?

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@RICHARD MESSINGER 

 For 9500 in stackwise virtual, you should be able to achieve non-disruptive upgrade as per cisco documentation, using ISSU

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9500/software/release/16-9/configuration_guide/ha/b_169_ha_9500_cg/configuring_issu_on_stackwise_virtual.html

 

Thank you for pointing to this document.  Very helpful

Joseph W. Doherty
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"Can I really upgrade one of the C9500 without disrupting operations of the other?"

I've no experience with current VSS technology, but in the past upgrades usually were more "troublesome" vs. a chassis with dual sups.

Of course the issue if you only have a single chassis vs. a pair, the single chassis, itself, is a single point of failure (although chassis failures are pretty low probability).

Often overlooked with VSS, the IOS, itself, might also be considered another single point for failure, but unlike hardware, its MTBF and MTTR are more difficult to estimate.

In my last company, for cores that only had L3 connections, we ran them as independent platforms using ECMP.  Doing this, such a pair could run different IOS versions and/or be different hardware platforms.

For distribution or access we often then would use redundant sup chassis and/or stackable switches.

The above, for non DC.  For DC, we would use Nexus and its vPC, and FEX, which can be also a challenge to update, although I recall (?) didn't run into issues, as often, keeping downstream devices on-line.

Leo Laohoo
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What method of "non-disruptive", ISSU, FSU/eFSU/xFSU? 

ISSU, FSU/eFSU/xFSU is not a one-size-fits-all.  Not all deployment works 100%.  If it works, great.  However, if it does not work, someone needs to be at the site to pull the plug, literally, because we've found out the hard way that the only way to gain back control of the network is to power down one of the two units.  

Another thing:  ISSU, FSU/eFSU/xFSU does not support ROMMON or FPGA upgrade.  ISSU, FSU/eFSU/xFSU also does not support non-Hitless SMU installation.

Always have a Proactive TAC Case before the ISSU, FSU/eFSU/xFSU upgrade begins.  Make sure a TAC Engineer (not a TAC Agent) has a WebEx session and is ready to intervene if-and-when the upgrade goes south.  

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