02-12-2010 01:12 PM - edited 03-17-2019 09:56 PM
We have one Communications Manager cluster to act as our PBX. We recently purchased a new TelePresence system and a 2nd CM cluster which will be dedicated for the CTS. The TelePresence SRND states to put the CTS codec in the Voice VLAN. There's no mention of what VLAN to put the 2nd dedicated CM cluster in. I don't think that we can have 2 CM clusters on the same Voice VLAN so what would be the best practice for setting up the codec and CM cluster for the CTS? Thank you.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Video/tpendpts.html
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02-14-2010 09:51 PM
Hi,
Thats more a CUCM SRND question, but based on our CUCM SRND take a look at this:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/7x/netstruc.html#wp1043629
Typically, Cisco Unified Communications Manager (Unified CM) cluster servers, including media resource servers, reside in a data center or server farm environment. [...] Because these servers and resources are critical to voice networks, Cisco recommends distributing all Unified CM cluster servers, centralized voice gateways, and centralized hardware resources between multiple physical switches and, if possible, multiple physical locations within the campus. This distribution of resources ensures that, given a hardware failure (such as a switch or switch line card failure), at least some servers in the cluster will still be available to provide telephony services. In addition, some gateways and hardware resources will still be available to provide access to the PSTN and to provide auxiliary services. Besides being physically distributed, these servers, gateways, and hardware resources should be distributed among separate VLANs or subnets so that, if a broadcast storm or denial of service attack occurs on a particular VLAN, not all voice connectivity and services will be disrupted.
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There is the potential for large numbers of devices within a single VLAN or broadcast domain to generate large amounts of broadcast traffic periodically, which can be problematic. A good rule of thumb is to limit the number of devices per VLAN to about 512, which is equivalent to two Class C subnets (that is, a 23-bit subnet masked Class C address). Typical access layer switches include the stackable Cisco Catalyst 2950, 3500XL, 3550, and 3750, as well as the Cisco 3560 and the larger, higher-density Catalyst 4000 and 6000 switches.
Note The recommendation to limit the number of devices in a single Unified Communications VLAN to approximately 512 is not solely due to the need to control the amount of VLAN broadcast traffic. For Linux-based Unified CM server platforms, the ARP cache has a hard limit of 1024 devices. Installing Unified CM in a VLAN with a IP subnet containing more than 1024 devices can cause the Unified CM server ARP cache to fill up quickly, which can seriously affect communications between the Unified CM server and other Unified Communications endpoints. Even though the ARP cache size on Windows-based Unified CM server platforms expands dynamically, Cisco strongly recommends a limit of 512 devices in any VLAN regardless of the operating system used by the Unified CM server platform.
To answer your question, yes, separate VLAN for CUCM servers, not only for clusters, (one cluster contains from 1 to 20 servers (super cluster))
Let us know if you have any other question
02-14-2010 09:51 PM
Hi,
Thats more a CUCM SRND question, but based on our CUCM SRND take a look at this:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/7x/netstruc.html#wp1043629
Typically, Cisco Unified Communications Manager (Unified CM) cluster servers, including media resource servers, reside in a data center or server farm environment. [...] Because these servers and resources are critical to voice networks, Cisco recommends distributing all Unified CM cluster servers, centralized voice gateways, and centralized hardware resources between multiple physical switches and, if possible, multiple physical locations within the campus. This distribution of resources ensures that, given a hardware failure (such as a switch or switch line card failure), at least some servers in the cluster will still be available to provide telephony services. In addition, some gateways and hardware resources will still be available to provide access to the PSTN and to provide auxiliary services. Besides being physically distributed, these servers, gateways, and hardware resources should be distributed among separate VLANs or subnets so that, if a broadcast storm or denial of service attack occurs on a particular VLAN, not all voice connectivity and services will be disrupted.
...
There is the potential for large numbers of devices within a single VLAN or broadcast domain to generate large amounts of broadcast traffic periodically, which can be problematic. A good rule of thumb is to limit the number of devices per VLAN to about 512, which is equivalent to two Class C subnets (that is, a 23-bit subnet masked Class C address). Typical access layer switches include the stackable Cisco Catalyst 2950, 3500XL, 3550, and 3750, as well as the Cisco 3560 and the larger, higher-density Catalyst 4000 and 6000 switches.
Note The recommendation to limit the number of devices in a single Unified Communications VLAN to approximately 512 is not solely due to the need to control the amount of VLAN broadcast traffic. For Linux-based Unified CM server platforms, the ARP cache has a hard limit of 1024 devices. Installing Unified CM in a VLAN with a IP subnet containing more than 1024 devices can cause the Unified CM server ARP cache to fill up quickly, which can seriously affect communications between the Unified CM server and other Unified Communications endpoints. Even though the ARP cache size on Windows-based Unified CM server platforms expands dynamically, Cisco strongly recommends a limit of 512 devices in any VLAN regardless of the operating system used by the Unified CM server platform.
To answer your question, yes, separate VLAN for CUCM servers, not only for clusters, (one cluster contains from 1 to 20 servers (super cluster))
Let us know if you have any other question
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