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wayne curley

MSE-8510 allows adhoc and scheduled meeting with same numeric ID

I am running MSE 8510 version 4.3(2.18) build 6.18(2.18). The system allows me to have a scheduled meeting and an ad-hoc meeting running at the same time with the same numeric ID.


1. 10:20am EST I schedule a meeting for 10:30am EST called "9876"

2. 10:24am EST I create an adhoc meeting "9876" by calling my mcu prefix along with "9876" dial 449876

3. 10:24am EST the adhoc meeting "9876" is active with my participant in it.

4. 10:30am EST the scheduled meeting "9876" becomes active

5. I now have 2 meetings running on the MCU "9876"(adhoc) and "9876" (scheduled)"

I thought the the system would not allow 2 active meeting with the same numeric ID running at the same time?

Patrick Pettit
Cisco Employee

HI Wayne.  You shouldn't be able to.  When i tried as you suggested on 8510 on 4.3(2.30)

     9179 2012/09/25 14:41:51.686 CONFERENCE              Info      new H.323 participant 299

     9180 2012/09/25 14:41:51.696 CONFERENCE              Info      creating auto conference "9301"

     9181 2012/09/25 14:41:51.716 GATEKEEPER              Info      successfully registered "85109301"

     9182 2012/09/25 14:41:51.762 CONFERENCE              Info      activating H.239 channel for "9301"

     9183 2012/09/25 14:46:43.530 WEB_PAGES               Info      starting new session

     9185 2012/09/25 14:48:50.868 API                     Info      Failed to create conference "9301 - Scheduled Meeting 9/25/2" - duplicate numeric id

     9186 2012/09/25 14:48:51.184 GATEKEEPER              Info      deregistering "9301"

     9187 2012/09/25 14:48:51.193 CONFERENCE              Info      deactivated H.239 channel for "9301"

     9188 2012/09/25 14:48:51.197 CONFERENCE              Info      destroyed conference "9301"

     9189 2012/09/25 14:48:51.197 API                     Info      conference "9301" destroyed by "admin"

     9190 2012/09/25 14:48:51.223 API                     Info      conference "9301 - Scheduled Meeting 9/25/2" created by "admin"

     9191 2012/09/25 14:48:51.226 CONFERENCE              Info      starting up scheduled conference "9301 - Scheduled Meeting 9/25/2"

     9192 2012/09/25 14:48:51.256 GATEKEEPER              Info      successfully registered "85109301"

     9193 2012/09/25 14:48:51.336 CONFERENCE              Info      destroy H.323 participant 299, "p2@tac.lab"

     9194 2012/09/25 14:48:53.083 H.323                   Info      New connection accepted from VCS

     9195 2012/09/25 14:48:53.083 CONFERENCE              Info      new H.323 participant 300

     9196 2012/09/25 14:48:53.146 CONFERENCE              Info      activating H.239 channel for "9301 - Scheduled Meeting 9/25/2"


So I checked the routing, and created a conference with 9301.  So I dialed in and created that meeting with 9301.  The build of the conference was rejected, IE duplicate numeric ID, and it seem TMS tore down my ad hoc meeting, and created my scheduled meeting.  My failover in TMS is "if conference start fails", but not sure the behavior should be to take down the meeting.  However, I'm not able to have them both at the same time.  Unless there is something different with your configuration than mine.  Can you verify the failover in TMS not sending it to another MCU? The event log's in TMS may help. 



Hi Patrick

Not sure what I am doing differnt. I shceudle themeeting then crate an adhoc meeting with the same numberic ID

Here is the log info along with some screen shots

88412 2012/09/25 15:06:58.116 WEB_PAGES               Info     new conference "9876" scheduled by user "a210693"

88415 2012/09/25 15:07:43.495 CONFERENCE             Info     creating auto conference "9876"

88416 2012/09/25 15:07:43.506 GATEKEEPER             Info     successfully registered "449876"

88418 2012/09/25 15:07:43.624 CONFERENCE             Info     activating H.239 channel for "9876"

88426 2012/09/25 15:10:00.118 CONFERENCE             Info     starting up scheduled conference "9876

88427 2012/09/25 15:10:00.128 GATEKEEPER             Info     successfully registered "449876"

Thanks Wayne.  I'm assuming your booking on the webpage and not in TMS I reckon? 

One of the snapshots shows 9876 Yet To Start, scheduled by a210693.  Does this uer have full Admin Rights to the MCU etc?  Or do they have a deviation of it?  Just curious so I can try and mirror it as close as possible. 



Interesting.  If you click on the Ad Hoc Conference, it shows the participant who created the conference.  If you click on the scheduled conference, does it show the same participant in the Ad Hoc meeting? 



When you click themeeting andlok at the configuration tab it shows the owner is the same for both meetings. What is intersting is that when you are looking at all the confernces form the confernces page the adhoc meeting has the owner blank


Yes I am scheduling via the MCU webpage. YEs the userID A210693 has full admin rights

Patrick Pettit
Cisco Employee

Thanks Wayne. Some folks are looking into it now. Will keep you posted.



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Patrick Pettit
Cisco Employee

HI Wayne.  Bug has been raised.  Once the system syncs over, will provide the CDETS number to ya. 



HI Wayne. 


You may not be able to see this yet publicly, as it needs some additional information, but this is the ID we are working off of for the issue reported here.  Any questions, please let us know.  Thanks.



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