08-11-2018 10:18 PM - edited 03-18-2019 02:17 PM
From what I have known from the community I have come to understand that for standalone deployment, H.323 is the only recommended way and that if I want to use SIP I would need a Session Border Controller, i.e- TMS/CUCM/VCS.
1. Is there any way that I can make SIP work without a session border controller?
2. If yes, then how? It would be best if you could refer me some configuration steps/guide.
Someone said earlier that there is a way if we have no other option but that way is not user friendly.
Thanks in advance.
Rishad
08-14-2018 04:18 AM
08-14-2018 05:32 AM
Hi Nipun
Thanks for you reply.
The scenario is as such:
1. Our end customer has bought an SX20 TelePresence codec along with peripherals.
2. The end customer happens to be a garments factory and they have bought this TelePresence unit so that they can communicate with buyers who are abroad.
3. Client wants to make calls to these buyers abroad using SIP as the calling protocol.
4. Previously I discussed on this community and everyone suggested that if my codec is not registered to any call controller (VCS/TMS/CUCM), then H.323 should be used for point to point control. That is to say that the device to which the call will be placed should also have H.323.
To be honest, I am fairly new to the collaboration path, and many of these things are unclear to me. Could you please take the trouble to elaborate a little? Also you may please suggest some resource materials that might help me to understand the whole thing.
Thanks in advance.
Rishad
08-14-2018 08:19 AM - edited 08-14-2018 08:22 AM
That's correct. You can have SX20 in a standalone mode using H.323. I am not sure if there is a config guide but the config is pretty straight forward. Following steps should help. Ensure you configure these using the web interface for the SX -
1. Go to Setup > Configuration > Network Service > Default call control protocol needs to be H.323
2. Go to Setup > Configuration > H.323 > Call Setup mode = Direct, Port Allocation = Static
3. For the H.323 alias, add ID as the IP address for the SX.
4. If the SX is behind a firewall that is responsible for doing NAT, no need to do NAT on the SX itself.
5. If there is a requirement to set NAT on SX, you would need to add the public IP in NAT config and change the mode to ON.
Here is the admin guide for SX20. Read it for basic setup etc -
https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/telepresence/endpoint/quick-set-sx20/tc7/administration-guide/sx20-quickset-administrator-guide-tc73.pdf
08-14-2018 08:23 AM
Hi Nipun
Thanks so much for your reply. In fact, we have previously deployed standalone cases like this using H.323. But this time, this particular client wants us to configure SIP for the same standalone deployment. I was just wondering if this is possible/recommended or for SIP there is no recommended way for standalone deployment.
Rishad
08-14-2018 08:32 AM
08-14-2018 09:25 AM
08-15-2018 01:24 AM - edited 08-15-2018 01:31 AM
Hello Shams Rishad
You can use SIP and H323 whithout call control infrastructure device .
See example under link
This example for EX, but your SX20 have same configuration
We do not discuss security and convenience :-)
08-15-2018 01:52 AM
08-15-2018 04:55 AM
If your customer already bought SX20 , you can try to make calls :-)
Don't forget about public IP for your SX20.
08-15-2018 10:11 PM
Hi Oleksandr
Thanks so much for your reply. Yes, customer has bought SX20 and we have just finished the physical installation. However, we are wondering if the other endpoint, to which the call is being placed is not a standalone deployment, and the SX20 at our end is on standalone deployment, will SIP standalone configuration work?
Because-
1. From the article that you have provided, it seems that the configuration is functional when both that caller and the receiver is on standalone configuration.
2. Also from the article it appears that this point-to-point (direct IP calling) is more of a test, not a day-to-day production practice. (I may be wrong, but that's what I understand).
3. If you see, I've inquired this before (this post and also other related post) where everyone basically says that using SIP for standalone deployment is not recommended but no one gave a clear answer to what the actual problem is. Everyone suggested to go for H.323.
Could you please help me? What is the issue here actually that I'm missing?
Thanks in advance!
Rishad
08-16-2018 12:57 AM
08-16-2018 01:13 AM
Thanks so much for the thread link.
Rishad
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