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Interdomain federation for presence and IM - UC proxy licenses

Hello,

How many UC proxy licenses (on ASA) is needed for interdomain federation between CUPS domain and OCS domain for exchenging presence information?

CUPS domain: about 400 hundred users/phones

OCS domain: 2000 users/MOC

And how many UC proxy licenses (on ASA) is needed for interdomain federation  between CUPS domain and OCS domain for exchenging presence information and IM?

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