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General questions about UC560 integration

firestormnet
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Hi all.

I've got a few questions regarding UC560 integration. I'll appretiate if somebody can help me with them.

1) Scalability - Does 104 seats mean someone with an extension in the office, that is fwd to a home extension counts as 1 or 2 seats, and what is max no. of seats it can scale to. I think there are 138 ip phone stations now, so do i need to have 138 licences?


2) Connectivity  - for remote office, do we need another system in there, or can we use one of Cisco's slot in modules for their routers to run a branch office. Can it be UC500 connected to ISR on another site and have all features or only UC500 to UC500 connection?


3) Integration - How well does it integrate with Microsoft Lync Server 2010/Office Communications Server. This is key for us, even though effectively Lync is a direct competitor.

Thanks,

Regards,

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David Trad
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Hi Firestormnet,

1) Scalability - Does 104 seats mean someone with an extension in the  office, that is fwd to a home extension counts as 1 or 2 seats, and what  is max no. of seats it can scale to. I think there are 138 ip phone  stations now, so do i need to have 138 licences?

If the home extension has its own extension it will count as two seats, however if it is sharing the same extension number as your office one it will only count as one. Although I am not sure you can do this via CCA now as we could do it in the old days using CLI, that one remains a little sketchy for me... But for now treat it as two extensions which means two seats or two licenses.

You can have up too 138 end points on the UC-560, you have to purchase Edelivery packs which come in 8 user packs to increase it from its 32 user point of entry or default amount, you would need to speak to your distie about this any if they apply any bulk order discounts.

2) Connectivity  - for remote office, do we need another system in  there, or can we use one of Cisco's slot in modules for their routers to  run a branch office. Can it be UC500 connected to ISR on another site  and have all features or only UC500 to UC500 connection?

Not such a straight forward yes/no answer sadly but yes you can have an ISR at one end talking back to a UC, there is more than one way of doing this;

  • If the "B" end ISR has CME installed instead of just a standard IOS, you can then do this via dial-peer management and crafty call routing, and since it is an ISR you can cook that CLI as much as you want However the issue will be at the UC-560 end, unless you are UC-Express Certified you cannot do any CLI configuration, so you will need to use CCA to setup Multi-Site configuration, check the what it has setup in terms of Dial-Peers for the remote site, and use this configuration as a reference to know what to setup on the "B" end... It can be a little complicated and at times convoluted
  • If the "B" end ISR does not have CME installed, then you will need to setup a VPN tunnel (IPSEC) back to the UC-560 and make sure that the tunnel can see all the UC-560's VLAN's/Subnets and can route to them I.E Data/Voice/CUE... You will also most likely need to manually configure the remote phones and ensure that their TFTP server address is pointing to the UC-560 so that way they will traverse down the VPN tunnel. Simple method of doing things, but has many inherent problems, too many to go through right now but needless to say it will work and is a crude methods of doing things but it will work.

3) Integration - How well does it integrate with Microsoft Lync Server 2010/Office Communications Server. This is key for us, even though effectively Lync is a direct competitor. 

There is strong collaboration going on between MS and Cisco for tight integration between the two platforms, you may think they are strong competitors but in fact the two systems can very much compliment each other

This is not support yet in CCA and not sure when it will be, but if you can get CLI approval you can 100% make it work without any problems, you might even be able to do something within CCA not sure to be honest, but it 100% works with ISR's and in theory the CME On them is much the same as the ones in the UC's albeit slightly different feature sets.

You can get it to work, just be prepared to jump through some small hoops in terms of support

Hopefully I answered your questions

Cheers,

David.

Cheers, David Trad. **When you rate a persons post, you are indicating a thank you or that it helped, but at the same time you are also helping to maintain the community spirit - You don't have to rate posts and you wont be looked down upon :) *

Hi David.

Thanks a mil for your full answers. I've had the same thoughts about those questions, but wasn't sure.

Usually I use CCA for configuration and if something doesn't work then I move to CLI.

Haven't seen any MS Lync Server configuration features in CCA or Cisco Unified Communications Manager Express (CME) GUI interface. So wasn't sure if they can integrate very well as I saw only CU Presence integration with Lync.

Does it look or integrate like Smart CallConnector (Server, Operator) and have similar features?

Cheers,

Firestorm

Hi Firestorm,

I deny all knowledge of providing you with this link

Click HERE for a step by step configuration guide with UC-500.

Again I point out that I did not provide this to you

However before you embark on this venture, know this... YOU WILL NOT GET ANY SUPPORT WHAT SO EVER!! You will be on your own with this, but if you have a deal that hinges on it and you are willing to carry all the risk, shoot for the moon friend

If you are UC express certified, then you might have a chance of getting support, but once you do CLI changes consider CCA a dead and buried support tool for you and CLI management will become your lonely friend

Cheers,

David.

Cheers, David Trad. **When you rate a persons post, you are indicating a thank you or that it helped, but at the same time you are also helping to maintain the community spirit - You don't have to rate posts and you wont be looked down upon :) *

Hi David.

Thanks, that's a really great stuff.

But I think we don't have a choice if customer asks us to integrate Lync with Unified Communications Manager. We can't just say that CCA doesn't do that so we can't do it. I suppose there is no a step by step configuration for UC using CCA.

There are many Cisco certified voice engineers who can help with configuration, of course not for free.

Anyway I'll try to play around with Lync and UC540 as we have one at the moment.

Cheers,

Firestorm

Hi Firestorm,

My suggestion is use CCA to build the entire system exactly how you want it, then make the CLI changes for Lync support.

I am going to try and gain access to a UC-520 on the weekend and I have a trial version of Lync to play with, ill give it 2 hours to see if I can get it to integrate using CCA, so far all things look like you can use the SIP generic template to do it with the possibility of very minimal CLI changes (Possibly ones you can hide from SBCS ) which will not break CCA support as well.

There might be light at the end of the tunnel on this one yet... If I cannot gain access to this 520 then you are on your own

Cheers,

David.

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Hi David.

We don't have a MS Lync installed but I've got a full version of it.

Is it possible to install Lync on Virtual machine for testing purposes. And I'm not sure if PC is fast enough to handle Lync.

Thanks,

Regards,

Firestorm