WLC 5520 flexconnect, 3702APs and SSIDs on same VLAN

[Clem58]

Hello,

We have a warehouse remote site, with 27 3702 APs, a remote flexconnect WLC 5520 (with local switching). APs are powered in medium power by CE500 switches POE ports (15.4W)

Scanners were facing some disconnections and slowness.

We decided to implement a static configuration within some Wireless coverage survey, to find the best channel and power values as per each AP, their location and obstacles around. We also disabled cleanair as we don't need dynamical configuration either.

We decided to use a new SSID with WMM, client exclusion and session timeout disabled, and 802.12BG only.

We also keep the old SSID that has all these features enabled, and ALL radio mode.

The 2 WLANs/SSID are added in APs group and flexconnect group, with the same VLAN ID.

The scanners are configured with 802.11NG mode.

With a scanner not configured with new SSID (but with old one) don't have any issue.

With a scanner with new SSID, we sometimes face some packet losses issue, like if we were in huge interferences.

For example, we are in a aisle and we look at the both scanners, one is pinging ok, another is in "transmit failed" and also can be completely stuck.

I don't understand why there is this difference, because normally it's the same coverage, same channel and same power, only the SSID is different, why for one we have some packet losses and for another scanner it's ok ...

[Haydn Andrews]

are you able to share the show WLAN <WLANID> for each of the SSIDs

Confirming both scanners are same model and same firmware installed onto them

If the scanners are configured as NG then having an SSID of BG will only use the G protocol.

Can you also do a debug client <mac address> of the scanner that is failing and share that

[Clem58]

Below the WLAN configurations summary, for your info these SSID are used not only in this site, but also in multiple sites with for each, APs group and Flexconnect group :

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SSID1

<(Cisco Controller) >show wlan 2

WLAN Identifier.................................. 2
Profile Name..................................... SSID1
Network Name (SSID).............................. SSID1
Status........................................... Enabled
MAC Filtering.................................... Disabled
Broadcast SSID................................... Disabled
AAA Policy Override.............................. Disabled
Network Admission Control
Client Profiling Status
Radius Profiling ............................ Disabled
DHCP ....................................... Disabled
HTTP ....................................... Disabled
Local Profiling ............................. Disabled
DHCP ....................................... Disabled
HTTP ....................................... Disabled
Radius-NAC State............................... Disabled
SNMP-NAC State................................. Disabled
Quarantine VLAN................................ 0
Maximum number of Associated Clients............. 0
Maximum number of Clients per AP Radio........... 200

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ATF Policy....................................... 0
Number of Active Clients......................... 121
Exclusionlist Timeout............................ 60 seconds
Session Timeout.................................. 1800 seconds
User Idle Timeout................................ Disabled
Sleep Client..................................... disable
Sleep Client Timeout............................. 720 minutes
User Idle Threshold.............................. 0 Bytes
NAS-identifier................................... none
CHD per WLAN..................................... Enabled
Webauth DHCP exclusion........................... Disabled
Interface........................................ management
Multicast Interface.............................. Not Configured
WLAN IPv4 ACL.................................... unconfigured
WLAN IPv6 ACL.................................... unconfigured
WLAN Layer2 ACL.................................. unconfigured
mDNS Status...................................... Disabled
mDNS Profile Name................................ unconfigured
DHCP Server...................................... Default
DHCP Address Assignment Required................. Disabled
Static IP client tunneling....................... Disabled
Tunnel Profile................................... Unconfigured
PMIPv6 Mobility Type............................. none

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PMIPv6 MAG Profile........................... Unconfigured
PMIPv6 Default Realm......................... Unconfigured
PMIPv6 NAI Type.............................. Hexadecimal
PMIPv6 MAG location.......................... AP
Quality of Service............................... Silver
Per-SSID Rate Limits............................. Upstream Downstream
Average Data Rate................................ 0 0
Average Realtime Data Rate....................... 0 0
Burst Data Rate.................................. 0 0
Burst Realtime Data Rate......................... 0 0
Per-Client Rate Limits........................... Upstream Downstream
Average Data Rate................................ 0 0
Average Realtime Data Rate....................... 0 0
Burst Data Rate.................................. 0 0
Burst Realtime Data Rate......................... 0 0
Scan Defer Priority.............................. 4,5,6
Scan Defer Time.................................. 100 milliseconds
WMM.............................................. Allowed
WMM UAPSD Compliant Client Support............... Disabled
Media Stream Multicast-direct.................... Disabled
CCX - AironetIe Support.......................... Enabled
CCX - Gratuitous ProbeResponse (GPR)............. Disabled
CCX - Diagnostics Channel Capability............. Disabled

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Dot11-Phone Mode (7920).......................... Disabled
Wired Protocol................................... 802.1P (Tag=0)
Passive Client Feature........................... Disabled
Peer-to-Peer Blocking Action..................... Disabled
Radio Policy..................................... All
DTIM period for 802.11a radio.................... 1
DTIM period for 802.11b radio.................... 1
Radius Servers
Authentication................................ Disabled
Accounting.................................... Disabled
Dynamic Interface............................. Disabled
Dynamic Interface Priority.................... wlan
Local EAP Authentication......................... Disabled
Radius NAI-Realm................................. Disabled
Mu-Mimo.......................................... Enabled
Security

802.11 Authentication:........................ Open System
FT Support.................................... Disabled
Static WEP Keys............................... Disabled
802.1X........................................ Disabled
Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA/WPA2)............. Enabled
WPA (SSN IE)............................... Enabled

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TKIP Cipher............................. Disabled
AES Cipher.............................. Enabled
WPA2 (RSN IE).............................. Enabled
TKIP Cipher............................. Disabled
AES Cipher.............................. Enabled
OSEN IE.................................... Disabled
Auth Key Management
802.1x.................................. Disabled
PSK..................................... Enabled
CCKM.................................... Disabled
FT-1X(802.11r).......................... Disabled
FT-PSK(802.11r)......................... Disabled
PMF-1X(802.11w)......................... Disabled
PMF-PSK(802.11w)........................ Disabled
OSEN-1X................................. Disabled
FT Reassociation Timeout................... 20
FT Over-The-DS mode........................ Disabled
GTK Randomization.......................... Disabled
SKC Cache Support.......................... Disabled
CCKM TSF Tolerance......................... 1000
Wi-Fi Direct policy configured................ Disabled
EAP-Passthrough............................... Disabled
CKIP ......................................... Disabled

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Web Based Authentication...................... Disabled
Web Authentication Timeout.................... 300
Web-Passthrough............................... Disabled
Mac-auth-server............................... 0.0.0.0
Web-portal-server............................. 0.0.0.0
Conditional Web Redirect...................... Disabled
Splash-Page Web Redirect...................... Disabled
Auto Anchor................................... Disabled
FlexConnect Local Switching................... Enabled
FlexConnect Central Association............... Disabled
flexconnect Central Dhcp Flag................. Disabled
flexconnect nat-pat Flag...................... Disabled
flexconnect Dns Override Flag................. Disabled
flexconnect PPPoE pass-through................ Disabled
flexconnect local-switching IP-source-guar.... Disabled
FlexConnect Vlan based Central Switching ..... Disabled
FlexConnect Local Authentication.............. Disabled
FlexConnect Learn IP Address.................. Enabled
Client MFP.................................... Optional
PMF........................................... Disabled
PMF Association Comeback Time................. 1
PMF SA Query RetryTimeout..................... 200
Tkip MIC Countermeasure Hold-down Timer....... 60

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Eap-params.................................... Disabled
AVC Visibilty.................................... Disabled
AVC Profile Name................................. None
Flex Avc Profile Name............................ None
Flow Monitor Name................................ None
Split Tunnel Configuration
Split Tunnel................................. Disabled
Call Snooping.................................... Disabled
Roamed Call Re-Anchor Policy..................... Disabled
SIP CAC Fail Send-486-Busy Policy................ Enabled
SIP CAC Fail Send Dis-Association Policy......... Disabled
KTS based CAC Policy............................. Disabled
Assisted Roaming Prediction Optimization......... Disabled
802.11k Neighbor List............................ Disabled
802.11k Neighbor List Dual Band.................. Disabled
802.11v Directed Multicast Service............... Disabled
802.11v BSS Max Idle Service..................... Enabled
802.11v BSS Transition Service................... Disabled
802.11v BSS Transition Disassoc Imminent......... Disabled
802.11v BSS Transition Disassoc Timer............ 200
802.11v BSS Transition OpRoam Disassoc Timer..... 40
DMS DB is empty
Band Select...................................... Disabled

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Load Balancing................................... Disabled
Multicast Buffer................................. Disabled
Universal Ap Admin............................... Disabled

Mobility Anchor List
WLAN ID IP Address Status Priority
------- --------------- ------ --------

802.11u........................................ Disabled

MSAP Services.................................. Disabled

Local Policy
----------------
Priority Policy Name
-------- ---------------

Lync State ...................................... Disabled
Audio QoS Policy................................. Silver
Video QoS Policy................................. Silver
App-Share QoS Policy............................. Silver
File Transfer QoS Policy......................... Silver

SSID2

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(Cisco Controller) >show wlan 12

WLAN Identifier.................................. 12
Profile Name..................................... SSID2
Network Name (SSID).............................. SSID2
Status........................................... Enabled
MAC Filtering.................................... Disabled
Broadcast SSID................................... Enabled
AAA Policy Override.............................. Disabled
Network Admission Control
Client Profiling Status
Radius Profiling ............................ Disabled
DHCP ....................................... Disabled
HTTP ....................................... Disabled
Local Profiling ............................. Disabled
DHCP ....................................... Disabled
HTTP ....................................... Disabled
Radius-NAC State............................... Disabled
SNMP-NAC State................................. Disabled
Quarantine VLAN................................ 0
Maximum number of Associated Clients............. 0
Maximum number of Clients per AP Radio........... 200

--More-- or (q)uit
ATF Policy....................................... 0
Number of Active Clients......................... 8
Exclusionlist.................................... Disabled
Session Timeout.................................. 86400 seconds
User Idle Timeout................................ Disabled
Sleep Client..................................... disable
Sleep Client Timeout............................. 720 minutes
User Idle Threshold.............................. 0 Bytes
NAS-identifier................................... none
CHD per WLAN..................................... Enabled
Webauth DHCP exclusion........................... Disabled
Interface........................................ management
Multicast Interface.............................. Not Configured
WLAN IPv4 ACL.................................... unconfigured
WLAN IPv6 ACL.................................... unconfigured
WLAN Layer2 ACL.................................. unconfigured
mDNS Status...................................... Disabled
mDNS Profile Name................................ unconfigured
DHCP Server...................................... Default
DHCP Address Assignment Required................. Disabled
Static IP client tunneling....................... Disabled
Tunnel Profile................................... Unconfigured
PMIPv6 Mobility Type............................. none

--More-- or (q)uit
PMIPv6 MAG Profile........................... Unconfigured
PMIPv6 Default Realm......................... Unconfigured
PMIPv6 NAI Type.............................. Hexadecimal
PMIPv6 MAG location.......................... AP
Quality of Service............................... Silver
Per-SSID Rate Limits............................. Upstream Downstream
Average Data Rate................................ 0 0
Average Realtime Data Rate....................... 0 0
Burst Data Rate.................................. 0 0
Burst Realtime Data Rate......................... 0 0
Per-Client Rate Limits........................... Upstream Downstream
Average Data Rate................................ 0 0
Average Realtime Data Rate....................... 0 0
Burst Data Rate.................................. 0 0
Burst Realtime Data Rate......................... 0 0
Scan Defer Priority.............................. 4,5,6
Scan Defer Time.................................. 100 milliseconds
WMM.............................................. Disabled
WMM UAPSD Compliant Client Support............... Disabled
Media Stream Multicast-direct.................... Disabled
CCX - AironetIe Support.......................... Enabled
CCX - Gratuitous ProbeResponse (GPR)............. Disabled
CCX - Diagnostics Channel Capability............. Disabled

--More-- or (q)uit
Dot11-Phone Mode (7920).......................... Disabled
Wired Protocol................................... 802.1P (Tag=0)
Passive Client Feature........................... Disabled
Peer-to-Peer Blocking Action..................... Disabled
Radio Policy..................................... 802.11b and 802.11g only
DTIM period for 802.11a radio.................... 1
DTIM period for 802.11b radio.................... 1
Radius Servers
Authentication................................ Global Servers
Accounting.................................... Global Servers
Interim Update............................. Enabled
Interim Update Interval.................... 0
Framed IPv6 Acct AVP ...................... Prefix
Dynamic Interface............................. Disabled
Dynamic Interface Priority.................... wlan
Local EAP Authentication......................... Disabled
Radius NAI-Realm................................. Disabled
Mu-Mimo.......................................... Enabled
Security

802.11 Authentication:........................ Open System
FT Support.................................... Disabled
Static WEP Keys............................... Disabled

--More-- or (q)uit
802.1X........................................ Disabled
Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA/WPA2)............. Enabled
WPA (SSN IE)............................... Disabled
WPA2 (RSN IE).............................. Enabled
TKIP Cipher............................. Disabled
AES Cipher.............................. Enabled
OSEN IE.................................... Disabled
Auth Key Management
802.1x.................................. Disabled
PSK..................................... Enabled
CCKM.................................... Disabled
FT-1X(802.11r).......................... Disabled
FT-PSK(802.11r)......................... Disabled
PMF-1X(802.11w)......................... Disabled
PMF-PSK(802.11w)........................ Disabled
OSEN-1X................................. Disabled
FT Reassociation Timeout................... 20
FT Over-The-DS mode........................ Enabled
GTK Randomization.......................... Disabled
SKC Cache Support.......................... Disabled
CCKM TSF Tolerance......................... 1000
Wi-Fi Direct policy configured................ Disabled
EAP-Passthrough............................... Disabled

--More-- or (q)uit
CKIP ......................................... Disabled
Web Based Authentication...................... Disabled
Web Authentication Timeout.................... 300
Web-Passthrough............................... Disabled
Mac-auth-server............................... 0.0.0.0
Web-portal-server............................. 0.0.0.0
Conditional Web Redirect...................... Disabled
Splash-Page Web Redirect...................... Disabled
Auto Anchor................................... Disabled
FlexConnect Local Switching................... Enabled
FlexConnect Central Association............... Disabled
flexconnect Central Dhcp Flag................. Disabled
flexconnect nat-pat Flag...................... Disabled
flexconnect Dns Override Flag................. Disabled
flexconnect PPPoE pass-through................ Disabled
flexconnect local-switching IP-source-guar.... Disabled
FlexConnect Vlan based Central Switching ..... Disabled
FlexConnect Local Authentication.............. Disabled
FlexConnect Learn IP Address.................. Enabled
Client MFP.................................... Optional
PMF........................................... Disabled
PMF Association Comeback Time................. 1
PMF SA Query RetryTimeout..................... 200

--More-- or (q)uit
Tkip MIC Countermeasure Hold-down Timer....... 60
Eap-params.................................... Disabled
AVC Visibilty.................................... Disabled
AVC Profile Name................................. None
Flex Avc Profile Name............................ None
Flow Monitor Name................................ None
Split Tunnel Configuration
Split Tunnel................................. Disabled
Call Snooping.................................... Disabled
Roamed Call Re-Anchor Policy..................... Disabled
SIP CAC Fail Send-486-Busy Policy................ Enabled
SIP CAC Fail Send Dis-Association Policy......... Disabled
KTS based CAC Policy............................. Disabled
Assisted Roaming Prediction Optimization......... Disabled
802.11k Neighbor List............................ Disabled
802.11k Neighbor List Dual Band.................. Disabled
802.11v Directed Multicast Service............... Disabled
802.11v BSS Max Idle Service..................... Enabled
802.11v BSS Transition Service................... Disabled
802.11v BSS Transition Disassoc Imminent......... Disabled
802.11v BSS Transition Disassoc Timer............ 200
802.11v BSS Transition OpRoam Disassoc Timer..... 40
DMS DB is empty

--More-- or (q)uit
Band Select...................................... Disabled
Load Balancing................................... Disabled
Multicast Buffer................................. Disabled
Universal Ap Admin............................... Disabled

Mobility Anchor List
WLAN ID IP Address Status Priority
------- --------------- ------ --------

802.11u........................................ Disabled

MSAP Services.................................. Disabled

Local Policy
----------------
Priority Policy Name
-------- ---------------

Lync State ...................................... Disabled
Audio QoS Policy................................. Silver
Video QoS Policy................................. Silver
App-Share QoS Policy............................. Silver
File Transfer QoS Policy......................... Silver

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The scanners have same fw and settings, only the SSID is different, they are Datalogic Skorpio X4 model with 1.41a FW.

What I've though, is if SSID has its own coverage, that means, there are 2 coverages for the same zone, as the SSID1 is most used by scanners it means it's coverage is crowed in this zone, if the scanner on SSID2 is in the SSID2 coverage, it detects some interferences from SSID1 coverage ? So the solution should be putting all scanners on SSID1 or all scanners on SSID2 ?