Hi Leo, Thanks for that. 1. I somehow concluded that 867VAE-K9 is slower than 887va.  I am not 100% sure, because those (860 series) datasheets were created before 867VAE-K9, but then, the unit seems to belong to the 860 series after all. 2. When do you run encryption on WAN? Is it that some traffic (SSL) is automatically encrypted (https). 3. I am not too worried about the future unless the price hike to pay now for that future is not too big. 4. There is a number of folks on the Net that run 80/20 line with 887va & are happy with good speeds (non encrypted I guess). 5. There is also 890 series faster then 880 (twice?). 6. Would it be advisable to get something with two VDSL 2+ modules.  Someone said that they do not do those modules anymore. 7. When ISPs say 80/20, they probably mean non-encrypted, so you would not get 80/20 encrypted anyway - correct? Overall, it seems to me that 880 series would do 80/20 non-encrypted & 890 would do encrypted. I have a SonicWall NSA240 on which I can prioritise traffic both ways without any markings. I could not do that on one Cisco (do not remember which). The support told me that it was not possible in general (after trying hard).  What happens is that on two PCs I ran Internet speed test simultaneously & the chosen one (by its IP) takes priority: 18meg line shows lets say 5 on one and 13 on the other.  Each PC reads 18 when run on its own. Can those discussed Cisco units do that?  Regards, Artur ... View more

Leo, Cisco site states: "New Cisco 887VA Routers support DSL multimode, including very-high-speed DSL 2 (VDSL2) and asymmetric DSL 2+ (ADSL2+). Part of the Cisco Integrated Services Routers Generation 2 (ISR G2) portfolio, they support VDSL2 and ADSL2+ on a single WAN interface." & some retailers more precisely: "The 887VA offers a combination VDSL2/ADSL2/2+ over PoTs on the WAN port for use with faster 40 Mbit and 80 Mbit broadband services." Artur ... View more

So how come that https://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/800/860-880-890/hardware/installation/guide/HIG880-860.pdf states the following (that would mean no load balancing): "The Cisco 866VAE, 867VAE, 866VAE-K9, and 867VAE-K9 routers each have two WAN ports. Only one of the two ports can be active at any given time." Artur ... View more

So how come that https://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/800/860-880-890/hardware/installation/guide/HIG880-860.pdf states the following (that would mean no load balancing): "The Cisco 866VAE, 867VAE, 866VAE-K9, and 867VAE-K9 routers each have two WAN ports. Only one of the two ports can be active at any given time." Artur ... View more

The WAN would be up to 80down/20up for each WAN. I am not particularly concerned about Vlans. Artur ... View more

Thanks for that. In https://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/800/860-880-890/hardware/installation/guide/HIG880-860.pdf I ma reading: "The Cisco 866VAE, 867VAE, 866VAE-K9, and 867VAE-K9 routers each have two WAN ports. Only one of the two ports can be active at any given time." So no load balancing? Artur ... View more