09-19-2025 03:05 AM - edited 09-19-2025 03:10 AM
The title says it all- but let me explain:
Where I'm coming from: I am a Learner by Cisco netacad terms, I'm a student aiming to become a Data technician specialised in infrastructure as we call it in Danish, which is a role similar to a Network Engineer / Systems Administrator.
In the course of this education I've been introduced to Packet Tracer, but the more experience I get the more I see the flaws.
The company I have an apprenticeship with is using Cisco hardware so I work with the CLI almost daily. So when I went back to school for apprentices and was told to download Packet Tracer, and during a training course I stumbled across the following issues:
Outdated Devices and Inconsistent Commands:
Most of the devices in packet tracer is either no longer in market and is also out of service (or end of life). The commands used in the devices, is sometimes different from what you would use in the real world, or the ones you learn to use in the real world is not functional in packet tracer. take something simple as:
show running-config interface fastethernet 0/1 or ( show run int fa0/1 )
won't work in the newest version of packet tracer.
Another example: you get blocked from putting a port in trunk mode because it's in auto, so you'll have to write
switchport mode trunk encapsulation dot1q
Where in real life you just fire off the
switchport mode trunk switchport trunk access xxx xxx x ( I think you know what I mean even if they aren't perfect replicas of the real commands)
Why should Cisco care:
A large part of Cisco's success is built on its education ecosystem, and that ecosystem is fuelled by students like me. Educational institutions invest heavily in Cisco's Netacad program because it promises to train the next generation of network professionals. However, when the primary training tool provides an experience that is out of sync with real-world equipment, it undermines the value proposition of the entire program.
The goal of education is to prepare students for the real world, not to teach them to navigate a vintage, simulated one. A modern, updated Packet Tracer would ensure that the foundation of knowledge we build is solid and directly applicable to the networks of today.
I believe this is a critical issue that needs attention to maintain the integrity and relevance of the Cisco Networking Academy.
I am aware that Cisco Modeling Labs (CML) is a thing, and a similar program like EveNG and GNS3. And if CML is going to replace Packet Tracer and be offered to educational institutions instead then I'll have nothing but respect.
Why do I care? Because I was told I might be the one teaching the apprentices that come after me, and I'll then have to explain each and every time that, "Ok everything you learned doing the Packet Tracer is not always right, because the devices is outdated" which is not only inefficient but also undermines the credibility of the very curriculum you're teaching. And lastly, I hope that future students won't be experiencing the same frustration as me.
Ps.:I even found that some videos on Youtube on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1zRwhtVAq4
edit : I know the examples of the commands are not extreme cases, but I just couldn't remember the bigger issues on the top of my head.
09-19-2025 03:55 AM
thanks for the info!
Note that PT is just a simulator of IOS - not real IOS; it's goal is getting CCNA level exam/cert and knowledge; not all commands and features of real IOS is implemented nor are feasible to be included.
as u mentioned, CML is great for more advanced or realistic represtatnion of IOS.
Regards, ML
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09-21-2025 05:02 AM - edited 09-21-2025 05:02 AM
Thank you for your reply.
I agree that Packet Tracer is "just" a simulator, but that's exactly the issue. What value does the CCNA exam or certification hold if the simulations students use to prepare for it are based on outdated IOS? The goal of a simulator is to reflect reality as much as possible. If a flight simulator for pilots had the same problems, would you trust their education?
My personal experience is that some tasks took far longer than they should have because the commands were outdated, leading to unnecessary frustration.
Let me put this in a real-world context. In the future, if I have to hire a new co-worker, my trust in their abilities won't be higher just because they have a CCNA. Why? Because my personal experience is that the learning material is outdated and inaccurate.
And what if the roles were reversed? If I'm applying for a job, and the certificates I present as proof of my skills and education are considered meaningless by an employer who has the same experience as I do, then I'll be frustrated that I wasted my time and effort on the exam.
In both of these scenarios, this isn't just a loss for me. It's a loss for every network engineer, as the worth of our education is being lowered. It's also a loss for Cisco, as the value of the Cisco Networking Academy would also be lowered. I hope to make someone at Cisco aware of this downward spiral before it starts to take a serious effect.
09-22-2025 07:36 PM
I think the goal of PT is to learn basics of networking concepts and basics of Cisco IOS. PT includes generic commands of IOS 12 and 15 and for common used switches/routers. It is good enough for CCNA as the scope of CCNA exam is limited. it is entry level cert for entry level position (w or w/o experience).
beyond CCNA, CCNP is where experience is a must which usually means working with the latest and various IOSes
Regards, ML
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