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Want to Replace IOS Version 17 with IOS Version 16

Network_Wizard
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Greetings and salutations. I was given a project to take over, but one of the switches is in limbo right now. They want the default IOS, 17.03.04, to be replaced with an older IOS, 16.12.03a. Normally I would just copy the second IOS to flash and select which one to boot with. Unfortunately, the flash size is too small to hold both IOSes at the same time. I'm working with a Catalyst 9200-49 PoE+ The two IOSes are: cat9k_lite_iosxe.17.03.04.SPA.bin and cat9k_iosxe.16.12.03a.SPA.bin. My idea is to boot with IOS 16 from the tftp server, delete the files for IOS 17 to make room for IOS 16, and then install it. I tried numerous times to talk them out of downgrading and instead to just upgrade the switches already in the field to IOS 17, but they don't want to take down the whole network to do this. 

This seems long-winded and time-consuming. Is there a quicker way to do this? 

The most merciful thing in the world, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - H.P. Lovecraft
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I'm leaving shortly, so the next response will come tomorrow most likely. I genuinely appreciate all of your help. 

What I did was copy from the tftp server to the flash on the switch. After that, I installed using the install activate commit command that you mentioned above. I also made sure the boot system file was the one you mentioned above. I followed the steps in the software installation link you gave me. 

The most merciful thing in the world, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - H.P. Lovecraft

Post the complete output to the following commands: 

dir flash:core
dir crashinfo:
dir crashinfo:/tracelogs

Another thing, downgrading from 17.X.X is one thing but going to a well-renown buggy 16.12.3a takes the cake.  Good luck and make sure to organize for the switches to get rebooted every 4 months.

matthew2587
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You might see if there is any space that can be freed with the "install remove inactive" command.

Primetime34
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Hi Network_Wizard,

The 9200 has a very small storage capacity. It appears you downloaded the full version of the IOS 16 image (cat9k_iosxe.16.12.03a.SPA.bin). If you remove the cat9k_iosxe.16.12.03a.SPA.bin file and replace it with the cat9k_lite_iosxe.16.12.03.SPA.bin file, you should then have enough room for both the IOS 17-Lite and IOS 16-Lite files.   After you install and commit the IOS 16-Lite file you can then remove the IOS 17-Lite packages to be ready for the next upgrade, if you'd like.  The 9200 can only hold two IOS-lite at a time.

But I don't think there is a way to avoid downtime. Even the reloadfast option (if available for 9200s) will bring down the switch for a shorter period of time.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/switches/catalyst-9300-series-switches/216231-upgrade-guide-for-cisco-catalyst-9000-sw.html

Good luck.

Thanks! I'll check that out. 

The most merciful thing in the world, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - H.P. Lovecraft

Leo Laohoo
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@Network_Wizard wrote:
cat9k_iosxe.16.12.03a.SPA.bin

Hey, wait a second.  This firmware file is wrong!

The filename "cat9k_iosxe.16.12.03a.SPA.bin" is not compatible with a 9200 because there is no "lite" in the filename.  The file is meant for 9300/9400/9500/9600.

 


@Network_Wizard wrote:
iso   cc 0  0  cc_srdriver     cat9k-cc_srdriver.16.12.03a.SPA.pkg
iso   cc 1  0  cc_srdriver     cat9k-cc_srdriver.16.12.03a.SPA.pkg
iso   cc 2  0  cc_srdriver     cat9k-cc_srdriver.16.12.03a.SPA.pkg
iso   cc 3  0  cc_srdriver     cat9k-cc_srdriver.16.12.03a.SPA.pkg
iso   cc 4  0  cc_srdriver     cat9k-cc_srdriver.16.12.03a.SPA.pkg
iso   cc 5  0  cc_srdriver     cat9k-cc_srdriver.16.12.03a.SPA.pkg
iso   cc 6  0  cc_srdriver     cat9k-cc_srdriver.16.12.03a.SPA.pkg
iso   cc 7  0  cc_srdriver     cat9k-cc_srdriver.16.12.03a.SPA.pkg
iso   cc 8  0  cc_srdriver     cat9k-cc_srdriver.16.12.03a.SPA.pkg
iso   cc 9  0  cc_srdriver     cat9k-cc_srdriver.16.12.03a.SPA.pkg
iso   cc 10 0  cc_srdriver     cat9k-cc_srdriver.16.12.03a.SPA.pkg

These package files are not suitable for a 9200.

@Leo Laohoo is right. The filename of the firmware for the 9200 should be cat9k_lite_iosxe.16.12.03.SPA.bin ... 

Also about the downgrading - what possible reason would it be to go back a major release instead of going to 17.6.5 or 17.9.4?

Regards, LG
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@liviu.gheorghe & @Leo Laohoo  I agree that doing this downgrade is a poor idea. I explained this to my supervisors and those in charage of that network. The three switches that are currently operating on the network have the cat9k_iosxe.16.12.03a.SPA.bin image, not the "lite" version. They have been working for a few months now without any issues. They want to add a fourth switch. The new switch I plan on installing has the IOS 17 by default. I don't know why the others, which are the same exact model, have the IOS 16.12.03a by default. Instead of taking down the network to upgrade those switches, they'd rather match the new one since it's not yet in production. I explained to them that the 16.12.03a is buggy and wil eventually cause problems. They were adamant regarding their decision. 

Question. If I installed the lite version of 16.12.03a on the new switch, would it work with the switch on the other end of the link being the regular 16.12.03a image?

@Leo Laohoo Here are the results to those commands:

switch: dir flash:/core

Attributes        Size         Name
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
-rw-r--r--           1   .callhome
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


switch: dir crashinfo:

Attributes        Size         Name
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
-rw-r--r--           0   koops.dat
drwxrwxrwx       77824   tracelogs
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


switch: dir crashinfo:/tracelogs

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The most merciful thing in the world, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - H.P. Lovecraft


@Network_Wizard wrote:

@liviu.gheorghe & @Leo Laohoo  I agree that doing this downgrade is a poor idea. I explained this to my supervisors and those in charage of that network. The three switches that are currently operating on the network have the cat9k_iosxe.16.12.03a.SPA.bin image, not the "lite" version. They have been working for a few months now without any issues. They want to add a fourth switch. The new switch I plan on installing has the IOS 17 by default. I don't know why the others, which are the same exact model, have the IOS 16.12.03a by default. Instead of taking down the network to upgrade those switches, they'd rather match the new one since it's not yet in production. I explained to them that the 16.12.03a is buggy and wil eventually cause problems. They were adamant regarding their decision. 

This reminds me of an old Cisco joke told by TAC engineers - "We supply the gun, you supply the foot..."

Question. If I installed the lite version of 16.12.03a on the new switch, would it work with the switch on the other end of the link being the regular 16.12.03a image?

Basically yes, it will work. To be 100% sure, can you share the output of the show version command from the newly downgraded switch? And also for comparison, the same output form oane of the 3 older switches.


 

Regards, LG
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This should clear up some flash space: 

delete /f /r crashinfo:/tracelogs/*.gz

Thanks, again, for the assistance to both of you. I go back into work tomorrow, so I'll delete those files you mentioned. I have a second switch that I can use to mimic the IOS 16.12.03a that is currently in production just so I can show that it will work with the "lite" version.

I must have accidentally clicked "Accept as Solution" when clicking the "Reply" button. Someone will definitely get the credit for this. Both of you deserve it, though! This has been a learning experience for me, which is something I always appreciate more than I can show. I've documented and saved all of the posts here for future reference. Nobody at my job ever does that. You should see the notebooks and folders I have filled. Heh!

The most merciful thing in the world, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - H.P. Lovecraft

Don't do any upgrades on production equipment, at least not without a maintenance window scheduled.

I would start with the show version command output to see how things are in reality.

Regards, LG
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I would never perform any work on in-production equipment that would interfere with service without going through the proper channels. 

Once I get settled in, I'm heading into the switches to see what we're up to. 

The most merciful thing in the world, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - H.P. Lovecraft

It looks like the others are all 16.12.03a lite. So, hopefully when I install the new one with the downgraded IOS everything will fall into place.

The most merciful thing in the world, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - H.P. Lovecraft

It will work.