Pornography vs. Nudity

[ibreakcellphones]

So what is the differentiating factor between the Pornography and Nudity categories?

Is Pornography something like "Site contains images that include an unclothed breast, buttocks, or genital area that are intended to be sexually stimulating, whether actual sexual activity is taking place or not?" Must there be actual sexual activity? Do strategically placed objects move it from Pornography to Adult themes or sexuality? 

I ask because I've seen sites outside the pornography tag that sure look like they're intended to be sexually stimulating. They're tagged as Nudity, but not Pornography.

Thanks for the clarification!

[rotblitz]

"So what is the differentiating factor between the Pornography and Nudity categories?"

For US (and some other countries') citizens: none
For everybody else: they have not much in common.

Nudity is the absence of clothing, not more and not less.Pornography is demonstration of sexual activity, or showing people or items for the purpose of sexual arousal or stimulation. The latter however is very subjective with no common sense about what is stimulating or not.

[cervezafria]

Someone's anti-U.S. bias is showing...

[rotblitz]

Nope. Disagreeing with an attitude is not disliking a whole nation. Don't over-interpret. ;-)

[Brian Hartvigsen]

In terms of Domain Tagging, the difference is defined on the Categories page:

Nudity

Sites that provide images or representations of nudity.

Pornography

Anything relating to pornography, including mild depiction, soft pornography or hard-core pornography.

In other words, it follows very closely to rotblitz's description of the difference between the 2.  Pornography will almost always be tagged as Nudity, I am not aware of any cases in which there isn't some nudity, but you Rule 34 (SFW) states there would have to be.  Nudity though would not be guaranteed to be tagged as Pornography.  For example, artistic nudes would not be classified as Pornography, but would be classified as Nudity.

[bobanne]

Brian, 

I've found several sites that were rejected for the nudity tag when there are clearly nude images on the site. For example, tcmag.com has galleries with nudity. Can this be fixed?

[Brian Hartvigsen]

I've passed that domain for review to our moderation team.  I didn't see anything going through the first few picture sets but I'll let them dig a little deeper.

[skildlobster]

How many votes do pornographic sites take. Sites such as nsfw_gifs.reddit have been tagged for a while. There are hundreds more, but it seems fruitless to spend my time tagging them if they will never get the votes to be moderated. Is there another solution?

I do understand I could just block those domains on my network, but this is also a community. As a former pornography addict, I sure do wish we could improve these filters for everyone wishing to block such sites.

[rotblitz]

No problem, that's up with also you.  Simply volunteer as a community tagging moderator.

[Brian Hartvigsen]

Tagging nsfw_gifs.reddit wouldn't have much of an effect.  That Domain is simply a redirect to the appropriate reddit/r/ URL which would then not be blocked (unless you block News/Media or Forums/Message Boards.)

That said, voting on domains isn't tied to just the number of people who have voted.  Our system looks at multiple factors including voter weight, % of votes for or against, etc.  So It's not as simple as saying "It takes 5 votes for a domain to reach moderation."

[skildlobster]

We've managed to block other sub reddits. How would that sub reddit be any different?

[skildlobster]

I realize the redirect link is reddit.com/r/nsfw_gifs

Forgot to mention that

[Brian Hartvigsen]

Yep, that's all I was saying, you are simply blocking a redirect, not the sub-reddit itself which would very much still be accessible.

[skildlobster]

When reviewing all the reddit.com sites on OpenDNS, they are listed with the subdomain syntax "something.reddit.com". And those that are approved are effectively blocked. Also, when I manually block "nsfw_gifs.reddit.com" it also blocks "reddit.com/r/nsfw_gifs" automatically.

Am I missing something? 

[skildlobster]

Ok, so nsfw_gifs.reddit.com is now tagged pornography and the /r/ subdomain is still accessible. Obviously, my memory was incorrect so now how can we address this?

Is there a way to appropriately tag reddit.com/r/nsfw_gifs? 

Thanks for the responses BTW!