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9509 FCP Mainframe Connection

thomas.paul
Level 1
Level 1

‎12-21-2011 08:10 AM

Hi

 

Both our IBM support engineer and our HDS support engineer have suggested that the IBM Z10 has to convert from ficon to FC and therefore may require a "Mainframe Pkg" license on the Cisco 9509 switch.   Would you have information to support this?

The Cisco 9509 switch  is running SanOS 3.3.1(c).  I am attempting to zone a new host (IBM Z10 mainframe) to access storage on  my  HDS USPV storage subsystem.  I have a good fibre link at 4gb. The Z10 can see the WWN of the HDS.  The issue is that the Z10 server is presenting to the switch as a target (disk) instead of an initiator (host).  As a result, despite zoning these devices together, the HDS does not recognize the WWN of the Z10 when I attempt to provision storage in an HDS port/host group.

Both our IBM support engineer and our HDS support engineer have suggested that the IBM Z10 has to convert from ficon to FC and therefore may require a "Mainframe Pkg" license on the Cisco 9509 switch.   Would you have information to support this?

Mainframe FCP definitions, I hope that the following info helps

Switch inventory including components and version numbers.

cisco9509 inventory.png

SAN switch port 8-35 is the Z10 (Mainframe).  The WWN of this device is seen however it shows as a target instead of an initiator

sana.png

zone.png

Despite proper zoning, the HDS USPV does not see the WWN of the Z10 on its port 1A.

hds.png

Below is th USPV  (SAN Disk - Hitachi)  port list, the direct connection was made to port 3F:

#!Version 05_00_00

Basic Information

[Port]

#SLPR

Port Name

Type

Host Speed

Addr.(LoopID)

Fabric

Connection

Attribute

WWN

00:SLPR0

CL1-A

Fibre

Auto

EF (0)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B000

00:SLPR0

CL3-A

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B020

00:SLPR0

CL5-A

Fibre

Auto

E4 (2)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B040

00:SLPR0

CL7-A

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B060

00:SLPR0

CL1-B

Fibre

Auto

E1 (4)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B001

00:SLPR0

CL3-B

Fibre

Auto

E0 (5)

Enable

P-to-P

External

50060E800543B021

00:SLPR0

CL5-B

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B041

00:SLPR0

CL7-B

Fibre

Auto

DA (7)

Enable

P-to-P

External

50060E800543B061

00:SLPR0

CL1-E

Fibre

1 Gbps

E8 (1)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B004

00:SLPR0

CL3-E

Fibre

1 Gbps

E8 (1)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B024

00:SLPR0

CL5-E

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B044

00:SLPR0

CL7-E

Fibre

1 Gbps

E8 (1)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B064

00:SLPR0

CL1-F

Fibre

Auto

C9 (20)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B005

00:SLPR0

CL3-F

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B025

00:SLPR0

CL5-F

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B045

00:SLPR0

CL7-F

Fibre

Auto

C5 (23)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B065

00:SLPR0

CL1-G

Fibre

Auto

98 (48)

Enable

P-to-P

Initiator

50060E800543B006

00:SLPR0

CL3-G

Fibre

Auto

97 (49)

Disable

FC-AL

Initiator

50060E800543B026

00:SLPR0

CL1-H

Fibre

Auto

88 (52)

Enable

P-to-P

RCU Target

50060E800543B007

00:SLPR0

CL3-H

Fibre

Auto

84 (53)

Disable

FC-AL

RCU Target

50060E800543B027

00:SLPR0

CL2-A

Fibre

Auto

D9 (8)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B010

00:SLPR0

CL4-A

Fibre

Auto

D6 (9)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B030

00:SLPR0

CL6-A

Fibre

Auto

D5 (10)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B050

00:SLPR0

CL8-A

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B070

00:SLPR0

CL2-B

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B011

00:SLPR0

CL4-B

Fibre

Auto

D2 (13)

Enable

P-to-P

External

50060E800543B031

00:SLPR0

CL6-B

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B051

00:SLPR0

CL8-B

Fibre

Auto

CE (15)

Enable

P-to-P

External

50060E800543B071

00:SLPR0

CL2-E

Fibre

1 Gbps

E8 (1)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B014

00:SLPR0

CL4-E

Fibre

1 Gbps

E8 (1)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B034

00:SLPR0

CL6-E

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B054

00:SLPR0

CL8-E

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B074

00:SLPR0

CL2-F

Fibre

Auto

B6 (28)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B015

00:SLPR0

CL4-F

Fibre

Auto

B5 (29)

Disable

FC-AL

Target

50060E800543B035

00:SLPR0

CL6-F

Fibre

Auto

E8 (1)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B055

00:SLPR0

CL8-F

Fibre

Auto

B3 (31)

Enable

P-to-P

Target

50060E800543B075

00:SLPR0

CL2-G

Fibre

Auto

80 (56)

Enable

P-to-P

Initiator

50060E800543B016

00:SLPR0

CL4-G

Fibre

Auto

7C (57)

Enable

P-to-P

Initiator

50060E800543B036

00:SLPR0

CL2-H

Fibre

Auto

76 (60)

Enable

P-to-P

RCU Target

50060E800543B017

00:SLPR0

CL4-H

Fibre

Auto

75 (61)

Enable

P-to-P

RCU Target

50060E800543B037


Your help is highly appreciated.

Warm Regards,

Tom Paul

Interactive Data

thomas.paul@interactivedata.com

1-781-687-8146

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kenk
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

‎12-23-2011 10:57 AM

Hi Tom,

Very interesting problem you're reporting.

In general, IBM Mainframes use FICON to talk to their Storage.  And, in general, the Mainframe license is

needed for the FICON feature on MDS switches.

If your Z10 is really using FC (no FICON) to talk to storage, then it would be best to work with the

appropriate IBM support team to determine why it is registering itself as a Target (instead of Initiator).

I did do a quick look in the TAC SR database to see if we have any other similar issues but I didn't find any.

Regards,

Ken

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thomas.paul
Level 1
Level 1
In response to kenk

‎12-24-2011 06:54 AM

Thank you, Ken.

I did contact IBM and they don't have a clue either. I contacted Hitachi and their response is switch configuration (CISCO 9509) is ok. So, they plan to take a dump of their storagedevices - which doesn't make sense. But, your response points is very interesting. If you are interested in discussing further, I'll forward the data.

Happy Holidays!

Warm Regards,

Tom

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Nisar Sayed
Level 1
Level 1
In response to thomas.paul

‎12-28-2011 06:43 PM

Tom,

I agree with Ken, you got a interesting issue. Few questions for you?

1) to test, have you tried using FICON feature instead of FCP? You can enable FICON trial period (good for 120 days).

2) setup FICON vsan, zone and test to see if any different result.

3) is there any settings on Z10 to change HBA to discover as initiator, instead of target.

Thanks,

Nisar

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thomas.paul
Level 1
Level 1
In response to kenk

‎12-27-2011 06:18 AM

Hi Ken,

Thank you very much for the reply. The mainframe IOCP is generated as 'FCP' connection to the ports below.

The switch config is given below:

They are both zoned correctly and in the active zoneset.

zone name Z10-SANA vsan 101

  • fcid 0xa20129

  • fcid 0xa20170

fc3/24 101 0xa20129 50:06:0e:80:05:43:b0:00 50:06:0e:80:05:43:b0:00

fc8/35 101 0xa20170 50:05:07:64:01:e2:a1:74 50:05:07:64:00:cd:1f:d2

The IBM Z10 HBA does not register as target or initiator. It appears that only the Fabric Manager assumes it is a target and very likely based on it’s WWN. The fc4-type registration should not be a factor.

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