08-25-2025 02:12 AM
Hello,
if we are using ESP-Null for transform-set is it correct that:
-) still a license is necessary if traffic goes beyond 250Mbps
-) it brings performance benefits on catalyst 8000/8000v?
-) it is still a valid option if an unencrypted tunnel is enough but gre can not be used
br + thx
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08-25-2025 02:56 AM - edited 08-25-2025 02:57 AM
Hello @waschminator
According to RFC 2410, ESP-NULL provides an IPsec tunnel without performing encryption, offering only the ESP header and optional integrity/auth, which mean it can be used whenever confidentiality is not required but encapsulation and authentication are still desired; it inherently improves performance compared to encrypted ESP because no crypto operations are performed, and yes it is a valid option when an unencrypted tunnel is sufficient but GRE cannot be used.
Licence is still required yes.
08-25-2025 02:56 AM - edited 08-25-2025 02:57 AM
Hello @waschminator
According to RFC 2410, ESP-NULL provides an IPsec tunnel without performing encryption, offering only the ESP header and optional integrity/auth, which mean it can be used whenever confidentiality is not required but encapsulation and authentication are still desired; it inherently improves performance compared to encrypted ESP because no crypto operations are performed, and yes it is a valid option when an unencrypted tunnel is sufficient but GRE cannot be used.
Licence is still required yes.
08-25-2025 03:17 AM
Esp-null so no need IPsec at all.
Use only GRE
MHM
08-25-2025 05:37 AM
gre is not possible
08-25-2025 05:40 AM
This router 8000/8000v ?
Under tunnel
Tunnel mode ?
What options you have
MHM
08-25-2025 07:49 AM
Any update?
MHM
08-25-2025 01:29 PM
gre is not possible because the environment does not support it. it is not a question of the routerconfig. the cisco router supports it for sure
08-25-2025 01:33 PM - edited 08-25-2025 01:37 PM
I already check
mode ipv4 is support and this mode need IPsec profile and hence need transform set.
so you need to use IPsec
for ESP-NULL I dont get anything about if it not need license or not
The point is router count traffic pass via ipsec tunnel as encrypt even if we use esp-null or not.
MHM
08-25-2025 02:00 PM
show plat hard qfp active datapath utilize <<- check this command when you use ESP NULL
share it if you can
MHM
08-27-2025 12:32 AM
R#show plat hard qfp active datapath utilization
CPP 0: Subdev 0 5 secs 1 min 5 min 60 min
Input: Priority (pps) 0 0 0 0
(bps) 0 0 0 0
Non-Priority (pps) 12 12 30 2718
(bps) 6128 5552 132040 23336600
Total (pps) 12 12 30 2718
(bps) 6128 5552 132040 23336600
Output: Priority (pps) 0 0 0 0
(bps) 0 0 0 0
Non-Priority (pps) 10 12 30 2717
(bps) 9256 23600 151664 23990472
Total (pps) 10 12 30 2717
(bps) 9256 23600 151664 23990472
Processing: Load (pct) 3 3 3 4
08-27-2025 02:33 AM
23336600 >> around 23 Mbps input
23990472 >> around 23 Mbps output
So in total 23 Mbps each direction
This when you use esp-null
You can try use other esp and check number.
But for now is 10% from 250 Mbps throughput
MHM
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