10-12-2018 12:21 PM - last edited on 10-18-2018 03:29 PM by Hilda Arteaga
This topic is a chance to discuss more about the Multi Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) technology and its typical applications. This session will cover all questions related to MPLS fundamentals including its supporting protocols (LDP, BGP), and its most common applications, such as BGP-less core networks, 6PE/6VPE migration mechanisms, L2 and L3 VPNs, both in intra-AS and inter-AS scope.
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10-23-2018 09:28 PM
Hi Sir,
Our network is running unified mpls as cisco standard and we want to deploy mpsl-te in access rings (Separate ospf process with core and agg domain). Can you advise best practice to reach switching < 50ms for ring topology. I'm trying with mpls-te fast-reroute use protect link but not really clear what we should do for full protect our service as L2VPN, L3VPN
Thanks so much
10-28-2018 11:38 PM - edited 11-01-2018 03:52 AM
Hello
For TE, you have to be careful as the tunnels are point to point and unidirectional. If tunnels are from PE to PE, it should be ok, but, if they are:
- P router to P router
- P router to PE
- PE router to P router
You need to be careful with the labels (transport) being popped up one hop before their actual destination. That would blackhole the traffic as the router receiving the packet will only see the VPN label, not the transport label, and it would not be able to forward the traffic (lacking transport label) as the only router understanding the VPN label is the destination PE. The other midpoints would only switch traffic based on topmost label (being transport label or TE label assigned by RSVP).
In an Unified MPLS deployment, the ASBRs would be the next hop for any LSP going through the IGP processes, consider them among your options for LPR (Local Point of Repair) in the case of TE tunnels.
In addition to that, in the case of a ring, i would be thinking on node protection (MPLS FRR) and make sure there is a backup LSP going in the other direction (clockwise/counter clockwise). On top of that, enhance fault detection with BFD so the LSP can be changed quickly.
Unfortunately, this session doesn't cover TE mechanisms for MPLS. I would recommend you to open a thread in the following community: https://community.cisco.com/t5/service-providers/ct-p/4441-service-providers
Thanks
10-24-2018 04:37 AM
Hi David,
First of all, Thank you for this session.
Actually I would like to know if there is a scalable way to encrypt L3VPN customers traffic inside the MPLS network, in other words to offload this to the provider side as opposed to the customer side.
Thank you.
Romio
10-24-2018 01:38 PM
Hello Romio
I would add some questions to clarify your requirements:
- Is this only for MPLS?
- Are there any sites with Internet circuits?
- What are your traffic patterns? (I.e. Spoke to spoke, hub and Spoke, etc.).
- What is the scale of the network?
IPSEC and GETVPN could be among your options, but it depends on which are your specific requirements.
10-25-2018 08:09 AM
Hi Sir,
Our network is running unified mpls as cisco standard and we want to deploy mpsl-te in access rings (Separate ospf process with core and agg domain). Can you advise best practice to reach switching < 50ms for ring topology. I'm trying with mpls-te fast-reroute use protect link but not really clear what we should do for full protect our service as L2VPN, L3VPN
Thanks so much
11-02-2018 06:23 AM
Hi
There’s no such a thing as full protect L2/L3VPN,
You can protect for core link/node failures –I recommend you configure node-link protection on all your links using many to one protection (Bypass LSPs).
You can protect for edge link/node failures. –for PCE-CE link failure protection I recommend you enable BGP PIC edge (prerequisites are: advertise best external + per-next-hop VRF labels) - For edge node (PE) failure protection I recommend enabling BGP PIC Core (cisco term).
Now with regards to the 50ms convergence,
Once the above backup options are enabled the backup path is pre-programmed in the HW so the switchover will be instant –however the bulk of the failover time is in the failure detection.
In best case scenario you can rely on L1 loss of light to detect the failure, but it’s a good practice to back that up with BFD on all links you’d want to achieve a sub 50ms convergence (you can set the BFD times to 15ms/45ms)
adam
10-27-2018 04:32 AM - edited 10-27-2018 04:38 AM
Hi, I've been trying to solve this problem for a quite long time and I gave up. I need some help ;)
I have two devices on my desk: C6500, sup720, pfc3c, msfc3 and C7600, rsp720, pfc3cxl, msfc4. Both are connected with a wire. Both ports are switchports with allowed vlan 2326. MPLS enabled. ping works
C6500 configuration:
mpls label protocol ldp mpls traffic-eng tunnels interface GigabitEthernet6/2 description to_C7600 switchport switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q switchport trunk native vlan 3425 switchport trunk allowed vlan 2326,3425 switchport mode trunk mtu 9216 ip arp inspection trust load-interval 30 no cdp enable spanning-tree vlan 3425 cost 10000 ip dhcp snooping trust interface Vlan2326 description to_C7600_vlan ip address 10.4.253.15 255.255.255.254 ip ospf mtu-ignore ip ospf 65405 area 0 mpls traffic-eng tunnels mpls bgp forwarding mpls ip ip rsvp bandwidth router ospf 65405 router-id 10.4.100.12 network 10.4.100.12 0.0.0.0 area 0 mpls ldp sync mpls traffic-eng router-id Loopback69 mpls traffic-eng area 0 mpls traffic-eng interface Vlan2327 area 0 mpls traffic-eng interface Vlan2326 area 0 interface Loopback69 ip address 10.4.100.12 255.255.255.255 #ping 10.4.8.8 source 10.4.100.12 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.4.8.8, timeout is 2 seconds: Packet sent with a source address of 10.4.100.12 !!!!! Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/1/4 ms #sh mpls interfaces Interface IP Tunnel BGP Static Operational Vlan2326 Yes (ldp) Yes Yes No Yes Tunnel102 No No No No No interface Tunnel102 description tunnel_to_C7600_10_4_8_8 ip unnumbered Loopback69 tunnel source Loopback69 tunnel mode mpls traffic-eng tunnel destination 10.4.8.8 tunnel mpls traffic-eng autoroute announce tunnel mpls traffic-eng path-option 10 dynamic no routing dynamic ip rsvp bandwidth 8000 #sh mpls traffic-eng tunnels tunnel 102 Name: tunnel_to_C7600_10_4_8_8 (Tunnel102) Destination: 10.4.8.8 Status: Admin: up Oper: down Path: not valid Signalling: Down path option 10, type dynamic Config Parameters: Bandwidth: 0 kbps (Global) Priority: 7 7 Affinity: 0x0/0xFFFF Metric Type: TE (default) AutoRoute announce: enabled LockDown: disabled Loadshare: 0 [0] bw-based auto-bw: disabled Shortest Unconstrained Path Info: Path Weight: 1 (TE) Explicit Route: 10.4.253.15 10.4.253.14 10.4.8.8 History: Tunnel: Time since created: 1 hours, 12 minutes Time since path change: 7 seconds Number of LSP IDs (Tun_Instances) used: 441 Prior LSP: [ID: 441] ID: path option 10 [441] Removal Trigger: path error Last Error: RSVP:: Path Error from 10.4.253.14: Routing Problem (code 24, value 4, flags 0)
C7600 configuration:
mpls label protocol ldp mpls traffic-eng tunnels #sh ip vrf Name Default RD Interfaces MPLS_back 65203:1 Lo70 Vl2326 Tu102 interface GigabitEthernet1/1 description to_C6500 switchport switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q switchport trunk allowed vlan 2326 switchport mode trunk mtu 9216 no cdp enable interface Vlan2326 description to_C6500 ip vrf forwarding MPLS_back ip address 10.4.253.14 255.255.255.254 ip ospf mtu-ignore ip ospf 65203 area 0 mpls ip mpls traffic-eng tunnels mpls traffic-eng administrative-weight 100 mpls bgp forwarding ip rsvp bandwidth router ospf 65203 vrf MPLS_back router-id 10.4.8.8 network 10.4.8.8 0.0.0.0 area 0 network 10.4.100.222 0.0.0.0 area 0 mpls traffic-eng router-id Loopback70 mpls traffic-eng area 0 mpls traffic-eng interface Vlan2326 area 0 ! interface Loopback70 ip vrf forwarding MPLS_back ip address 10.4.8.8 255.255.255.255 #ping vrf MPLS_back 10.4.100.12 source 10.4.8.8 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.4.100.12, timeout is 2 seconds: Packet sent with a source address of 10.4.8.8 !!!!! Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/1/4 ms #sh mpls interfaces vrf MPLS_back Interface IP Tunnel BGP Static Operational VRF MPLS_back: Tunnel100 No No No No No Vlan2326 Yes (ldp) Yes Yes No Yes Tunnel102 No No No No No interface Tunnel102 description tunnel_to_C6500_10_4_100_12 ip vrf forwarding MPLS_back ip unnumbered Loopback70 tunnel mode mpls traffic-eng tunnel destination 10.4.100.12 tunnel mpls traffic-eng priority 7 7 tunnel mpls traffic-eng bandwidth 8000 tunnel mpls traffic-eng path-option 100 dynamic sh mpls traffic-eng tunnels tunnel 102 Name: tunnel_to_C6500_10_4_100_12 (Tunnel102) Destination: 10.4.100.12 Status: Admin: up Oper: down Path: not valid Signalling: Down path option 100, type dynamic Config Parameters: Bandwidth: 8000 kbps (Global) Priority: 7 7 Affinity: 0x0/0xFFFF Metric Type: TE (default) AutoRoute: disabled LockDown: disabled Loadshare: 8000 [0] bw-based auto-bw: disabled Shortest Unconstrained Path Info: Path Weight: 100 (TE) Explicit Route: 10.4.253.14 10.4.253.15 10.4.100.12 History: Tunnel: Time since created: 1 hours, 29 minutes Number of LSP IDs (Tun_Instances) used: 544
Could you please tell me what I did wrong ;) ?
10-28-2018 11:29 PM - edited 10-29-2018 03:04 AM
Hello
If the tunnel is down due to signaling not happening, this usually means that the requested options could not be satisfied and a path couldn't be found to meet those requirements.
Last Error: RSVP:: Path Error from 10.4.253.14: Routing Problem (code 24, value 4, flags 0)
According to RFC 3209 ( RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels):
7.3. Error Codes and Globally-Defined Error Value Sub-Codes
The following list extends the basic list of Error Codes and Values that are defined in [RFC2205]. Error Code Meaning 24 Routing Problem This Error Code has the following globally-defined Error Value sub-codes: 1 Bad EXPLICIT_ROUTE object 2 Bad strict node 3 Bad loose node 4 Bad initial subobject 5 No route available toward destination 6 Unacceptable label value 7 RRO indicated routing loops 8 MPLS being negotiated, but a non-RSVP-capable router stands in the path 9 MPLS label allocation failure 10 Unsupported L3PID
There is a problem in your configuration, the router cannot even signal to find a path.
- There is a explicit path in the option but you config states dynamic.
interface Tunnel102 description tunnel_to_C7600_10_4_8_8 ip unnumbered Loopback69 tunnel source Loopback69 tunnel mode mpls traffic-eng tunnel destination 10.4.8.8 tunnel mpls traffic-eng autoroute announce tunnel mpls traffic-eng path-option 10 dynamic no routing dynamic ip rsvp bandwidth 8000
Shortest Unconstrained Path Info: Path Weight: 1 (TE) Explicit Route: 10.4.253.15 10.4.253.14 10.4.8.8
I could be mistaken in this statement. Therefore, please take this with a grain of salt ;)
Unfortunately, this session doesn't cover TE mechanisms for MPLS. I would recommend you to open a thread in the following community: https://community.cisco.com/t5/service-providers/ct-p/4441-service-providers
Thanks
10-29-2018 10:46 PM - edited 10-29-2018 10:48 PM
EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't notice that your ospf process is also in vrf.
interface Loopback70 ip vrf forwarding MPLS_back ip address 10.4.8.8 255.255.255.255
Is loopback address in vrf just for testing?
10-29-2018 09:51 PM
Hello David,
I was wondering on which conditions we can use same bgp router id between two peers. Normally, as far as I know, we are not allowed to use same router id neither in ebgp nor ibgp. As long as we do, we should receive a notification as follows: BGP identifier wrong
However, we've got some hairpins using in our network to make smooth transit between different VRFs. So actually, the box peers itself. Within these peerings the router ids are not configured explicitly under VRFs, so peers sharing same router id without any problem.
11-01-2018 09:14 AM - edited 11-01-2018 09:15 AM
Hello Ugur
I all honesty, i would like to think about a reason to peer with yourself, but i cannot come up with something. Why not leaking routes between VRFs instead?
This would even break Best Path Selection algorithm in BGP , the next-to-last step will be stabbed in the back, and any field where the router puts its own RID will be at risk of a conflict - E.g. AGGREGATOR, ORIGINATOR_ID, CLUSTER_LIST (initialized from the RID of the RR).
Not judging the setup, but instead pondering about the reasons behind it.
Hope to hear back from you!
Thanks
11-01-2018 08:29 PM - edited 11-01-2018 08:35 PM
hello David,
Yes I know, it's kinda weird to implement such design and not safe also :) We are also trying to simplify this design by using vrf leaks.
Mostly this solution is implemented where devices working inline like dpi and nat exist. So, the router is connected to dpi/nat device with 2 interfaces, in this way, it is possible to get the traffic travel through nat/dpi devices and change vrf the traffic goes via the BGP peered over this link.
11-02-2018 04:49 AM
Hello Team.
I have a design question.
We have networks from 19 hops ( 2 routers in each hop) connected as daisy chain along huge distance 1500 км. (Device are Cisco 7600/ASR9k)
Currently use BGP full mesh - without RR. /MPLS L3 VPN. EoMPLS.VPLS - is working services /
We need installed seperate RR and make migration from BGP full mesh configuration to BGP - RR configuration without interrrated services.
are there any recomendations or best method to approach this migration without interrupted services?
Thanks advance
Gennady
11-02-2018 06:43 AM
Actually migration from full mesh to RRs is straightforward and seamless.
The best approach is:
Stage1) build a new RR infrastructure on top of your existing full-mesh and let it soak in (make sure it’s stable)
(routes received via RRs should not be preferred)
Stage2) once all PEs are connected to both full-mesh and new RRs make sure PEs are receiving all routes via full-mesh as well as via your RRs, also make sure each route has same paths as it used to over full-mesh, and if not try to understand what it will mean in terms of traffic routing and data flows in your network.
Stage3) once you are satisfied with the state of routing information each PE receives over the RR sessions then you can start disabling the full-mesh sessions on every PE at your convenience.
Note1:
What you need to verify upfront is whether all your PEs have enough memory to hold the extra routes (that will be received via RRs)
Note2:
When migrating from full-mesh to RRs –depending on how you’ll design your RR infrastructure (single plane, address-based-route-reflection, add-path, diverse-path, Type-1 RDs) when switching to RRs you may receive just a subset of the paths you used to receive for each prefix over the full mesh –this is because each RR as BGP speakers will advertise only what it considers as the best path (from its perspective) to its clients by default. So after you disable full-mesh BGP sessions and leave PE with just RRs sessions during final stage you may perceive a change in traffic flows –i.e. is the number or preference of the paths changed by switching to the RR infrastructure.
adam
11-02-2018 01:36 PM
Thats excellent!
Thanks for passing by and sharing your thoughts! This was unexpected :D
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