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Log Sizing Calculation for 2.4 TACACS+

umahar
Cisco Employee
Cisco Employee

Anyone recently did Log Sizing Calculation for TACACs on 2.4 using the below link ?

https://community.cisco.com/t5/security-documents/ise-mnt-log-sizing-calculator-for-tacacs-and-radius/ta-p/3636072

 

I have a few doubts.

 

Q1. What is the % disk allocation for logs on 2.4 ? I am struggling to find it documented.

Q2. Could anyone explain the formula for MnT Log Allocation - .2*.8*I9 ?

The below document mentions only 20% is available for 2.0/2.1 and 60% for 2.2. Do we need to account for another 20% usage to introduce .8 in the formula ?

https://community.cisco.com/t5/security-documents/ise-performance-amp-scale/ta-p/3642148#toc-hId-1675205073

 

Q3. Will this formula have to be changed for different ISE versions . eg. use .6*.8*I9 for 2.2 ?

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Damien Miller
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I do believe .6 would be the correct value in the equation since comes from the fact that ISE allocates 60% of the provisioned disk. ex, a 1200 GB VM would have approx 700 GB of log storage available to both radius or tacacs .
I then believe .8 acts as the high water mark for log storage, ISE tries to maintain 80% of the 60% as the threshold. So of that 700 GB, there is an 80% high log storage alarm, say around 570 GB. So the effective storage from 1200 GB becomes 570 GB for radius and tacacs combined.

 

You can see this for yourself if you go to this page on your ise deployment. It gives total DB size if you hover over the bar graph, and then the alarm threshold at around 80%.
https://<ise-server>/admin/#administration/administration_system/administration_system_backup/data_purging

 

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Damien is correct. A little background that will help understand better...

Prior to ISE 2.2, in ISE 2.1 the log storage are statically assigned(hard coded) to be 30% for Radius and 20% for TACACS.

The formula you mentioned uses that I believe.

When I realized that, I fought for more dynamic way of allocating log storage independent of the service and hence the new allocation based on the usage be it RADIUS or TACACS upto 60% with 80% watermark. Hope this clarifies.

 

-Krishnan

 

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Jason Kunst
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Asked our SMEs to take a look

Damien Miller
VIP Alumni
VIP Alumni

I do believe .6 would be the correct value in the equation since comes from the fact that ISE allocates 60% of the provisioned disk. ex, a 1200 GB VM would have approx 700 GB of log storage available to both radius or tacacs .
I then believe .8 acts as the high water mark for log storage, ISE tries to maintain 80% of the 60% as the threshold. So of that 700 GB, there is an 80% high log storage alarm, say around 570 GB. So the effective storage from 1200 GB becomes 570 GB for radius and tacacs combined.

 

You can see this for yourself if you go to this page on your ise deployment. It gives total DB size if you hover over the bar graph, and then the alarm threshold at around 80%.
https://<ise-server>/admin/#administration/administration_system/administration_system_backup/data_purging

 

Thanks for detailed response Damien.

Any idea if we should use 60% utilization for 2.4 also ? 

I just took a look, 2.2, 2.3, and 2.4 all have the same database storage breakdown, 60% of underlying provisioned disk.

Damien is correct. A little background that will help understand better...

Prior to ISE 2.2, in ISE 2.1 the log storage are statically assigned(hard coded) to be 30% for Radius and 20% for TACACS.

The formula you mentioned uses that I believe.

When I realized that, I fought for more dynamic way of allocating log storage independent of the service and hence the new allocation based on the usage be it RADIUS or TACACS upto 60% with 80% watermark. Hope this clarifies.

 

-Krishnan

 

Thank You everyone for your prompt responses.