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PSN Identity Source (and Licenses) in a Distributed Environment.

ADEDEJDA
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1. I have a requirement to implement a wired/wireless NAC solution targeted at device end entities or IP devices. This will comprise of Workstations, IP Phones that are often attached / detached from the network. Cisco ISE will be integrated with other security sources e.g. SIEM.


2. The target end entity devices are part of a mobile equipment package (comprising Servers & Network equipment) which may be on the move at anytime, anywhere. The target Workstations & IP Phones are connected to an Access Switch/Access Point also within the mobile equipment package.


3. There are more than 30 units of this mobile equipment packages. The mobile equipment package must be able to operate autonomously while still being able to be managed centrally from a static Data Centre location.


4. The PSN will be deployed to a mobile equipment package which communicates over a very limited bandwidth (GPRS - 2G) to a static Data Centre location hosting the PAN (in HA setup) while also expected to operate in a disconnected state (No network connectivity between PAN & PSN).

 

Having explored this two articles:
(i) -- https://community.cisco.com/t5/network-access-control/when-psn-looses-connection-to-both-pan/m-p/3750603#M488127


(ii) -- https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/security/ise/2-0/admin_guide/b_ise_admin_guide_20/b_ise_admin_guide_20_chapter_010.html#ID59

 

I have two questions regarding licensing, and distributed identity sources.
A. If identity source(s) is not centralized, and each PSN is to have its own Identity Source hosted (a local Domain Controller) on each mobile equipment package. Will this solution work?

B. Can Passive Identity Service be enabled per local Domain Controller? Ideally, we want active authentication to the local DC.

C. The same constraints applies to licensing, will PSN continue to work if it is disconnected from PAN for up to 72 hours?

 

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Damien Miller
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I have two questions regarding licensing, and distributed identity sources.
A. If identity source(s) is not centralized, and each PSN is to have its own Identity Source hosted (a local Domain Controller) on each mobile equipment package. Will this solution work?

  • If this works for the Identity source, then yes, ISE will treat it the same. The other option is to use ISE as the identity source but that would require maintaining static lists in ISE itself. 

 

B. Can Passive Identity Service be enabled per local Domain Controller? Ideally, we want active authentication to the local DC.

  • If you want active authentication then you should be looking at 802.1x/MAB versus passive ID. 

C. The same constraints applies to licensing, will PSN continue to work if it is disconnected from PAN for up to 72 hours?

  • There won't be a licensing issue here, but I would strongly recommend deploying PSNs to networks that will have disconnects as you describe. While ISE can sustain network outages, the product is not designed to be disconnected from the PAN under ordinary circumstances. An ISE PSN that is disconnected for more than 24 hours or a million replication messages will have to be manually re-synced to a deployment upon establishing network connectivity again. This is a survivability feature in which not all features are available, I wouldn't design ISE this way. 

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Damien Miller
VIP Alumni
VIP Alumni

I have two questions regarding licensing, and distributed identity sources.
A. If identity source(s) is not centralized, and each PSN is to have its own Identity Source hosted (a local Domain Controller) on each mobile equipment package. Will this solution work?

  • If this works for the Identity source, then yes, ISE will treat it the same. The other option is to use ISE as the identity source but that would require maintaining static lists in ISE itself. 

 

B. Can Passive Identity Service be enabled per local Domain Controller? Ideally, we want active authentication to the local DC.

  • If you want active authentication then you should be looking at 802.1x/MAB versus passive ID. 

C. The same constraints applies to licensing, will PSN continue to work if it is disconnected from PAN for up to 72 hours?

  • There won't be a licensing issue here, but I would strongly recommend deploying PSNs to networks that will have disconnects as you describe. While ISE can sustain network outages, the product is not designed to be disconnected from the PAN under ordinary circumstances. An ISE PSN that is disconnected for more than 24 hours or a million replication messages will have to be manually re-synced to a deployment upon establishing network connectivity again. This is a survivability feature in which not all features are available, I wouldn't design ISE this way.