05-21-2015 01:17 PM
I have the highest settings in place on my Open DNS account, but I am still able to see inappropriate images through a search engine. I don't want my children, out of curiosity, to see the images that appear when the search "big butts" for example. I am not sure why I would still see these explicit images. Is there more I can do to prevent this?
05-21-2015 03:07 PM
The only thing you can do is to block the offending search engine, or find a way to force it's "safe search" settings, if any exist.
OpenDNS, like any DNS services, concerns itself only with domain names, not content, such as the result of a search on a search engine. Sometimes the search results returned would reference another domain that you have blocked, but normally all of the results are something hosted on the search engine's domain, and blocking for the results wouldn't come into play until after you clicked on a link.
If you are concerned about search engine results being inappropriate, your best bet with OpenDNS is to block the search engines category, then whitelist the domain or domains of the whatever search engine whose results you approve of. This isn't a foolproof method and could cause problems with sites who domains are blocked in the search engine category.
If possibly, you should also force "safe search" or the equivalent for your entire local network for whichever search engine you choose.
05-22-2015 03:45 AM
"Why am I still able to see pornongraphy if a I google a naughty word?"
(Weird English...) Because you didn't block the domain name google.com, did you?
"I have the highest settings in place on my Open DNS account"
Yeah, but this does not include Google, does it? The objectionable things for you are shown by Google, as you say yourself.
"I am not sure why I would still see these explicit images." - Now you know!
"Is there more I can do to prevent this?"
Yeah, sure, as mattwilson9090 said, you change your settings to "Custom" to block the Search Engines category, or you add google.com to your "always block" list, depending on what you want to achieve, blocking all search engines or just Google.
05-22-2015 10:12 AM
Since google.com serves up its images and search results from google.com, the only way to block the search details would be to block google.com itself. We don't have the ability to scan the data you're sending to Google, rather just the DNS requests and you'd need to use a SafeSearch lock program on your computer to enforce SafeSearch and this is not something we can prevent.
05-24-2015 12:31 AM
Britthutch, because www.google.com IS PORN. It is amazing that opendns will allow access to www.google.com EVEN WHEN I CHECK restriction to bikini sites. I can restrict access to bikini sites and then go and get porn in google's image search. I vote that www.google.com be added to the list as a porn site. Just because it offers other things besides porn does not make it "not a porn site". If xxx.com started selling bananas along side its porn it would get knocked off the list as a porn site on opendns ? I think not! And yet the porn site www.google.com is allowed free reign.
05-24-2015 09:46 AM
"Britthutch, because www.google.com IS PORN."
That's your subjective individual opinion, not common sense.
"I vote that www.google.com be added to the list as a porn site."
This is definitely not going to happen. Feel free to add it to your "always block" list. Or better use Google's SafeSearch as recommended in the other thread.
"Just because it offers other things besides porn does not make it "not a porn site"."
So, you're saying that Google's primary purpose is to serve pornographic content? Then it would indeed belong to that category, else not. If you think different, simply add it to your "always block" list, and you've got what you want.
05-25-2015 01:29 AM
05-25-2015 02:09 AM
It is an opinion shared by OpenDNS and the vast majority of internet users throughout the world, namely that www.google.com is a search site and not a pornography site. The fact that I can find links to pornography, bikini photos, recipes, or cute kitten videos on there does not make it any less a search site, nor does it make it a pornography or cute kitten site.
If you don't like the results from a google search you have the option to completely block the domain via OpenDNS, or follow the link that rotblitz provided to enforce and require for all Google searches.
www.google.com:80 is not a domain name, it is a URL and therefore cannot be added to a black or white list on OpenDNS. You would need to add either google.com or www.google.com.
You have branded www.google.com a pornography site. By extension that makes Google itself a pornography company. If you are so bothered by anyone on your network having access to such a pornography site why are you not bothered by them also having access to a pornography company and it's various products and services?
Did you even bother reading the link that rotblitz provided copied regarding how to enforce SafeSearch on your entire network? I'm pretty sure you didn't read that or any of the related discussions scattered throughout this forum. Despite what you claim about everyone knowing that incognito or private browsing mode allowing safe search, that is not possible with this method. This method, regardless of what anyone does or sets on their own local computer, forces all google traffic on the network to use SafeSearch. There is no way to sidestep it. Read the link. Follow the instructions if you are so hot about not allowing google to provide material you object to in response to searches on their website. Or block google entirely.
Google does not serve up pornography to anyone, whether they are children or not. Google's search engine is technology that crawls the entire internet, indexing all of internet information it has access to, and provides searches of internet content based on those indexes. That is the information that google serves up. It does not make any differentiation between recipes, family photos, or pornography, other than in the information it has indexed, and the "tags" that it applies as a result. If you object to certain kinds of search results they have provided several methods to block that content. Which method is appropriate for someone to use depends upon their needs and situation. They even provide a method whereby someone can force all network traffic to SafeSearch, regardless of how anyone configures things on a specific computer or in specific software.
The tools to filter the internet as you wish are available to you. It is up to you to choose which tools you want and to implement them. It is not up to those tool vendors to redesign their tools to suit your worldview, and what you want them to do. That's the beauty of a free society, they are able to provide whatever legal tools and products they want to their potential customers, and you have the choice to choose whichever tools you want. It does not mean that they can force you to use their tools, nor does it give you the right to force them to change to suit you. If you truly think that Google is a pornography company serving up pornography to children (which it is if you believe that their search engine is a pornography site) then you should either stop using them altogether, or begin the process of filing criminal or civil charges against Google and anyone that you think is aiding and abetting them.
03-28-2016 04:24 PM
So with OpenDNS, there isn't a way for me to see WHAT is being searched? Just that someone got on google.com and made a search?
03-28-2016 04:41 PM
This is correct. A DNS service like OpenDNS sees only domain names, not URLs, keywords, search words, images, videos or any other objects.
Following that, a DNS service can make blocking decisions only based on DNS names.
03-28-2016 04:55 PM
03-28-2016 08:32 PM
It all comes down to what you are trying to accomplish, and what you mean by "see what's being searched".
About the only things is some sort of spyware that includes keylogging capabilities. Some of this could be done with various inspection and logging capabilities on firewalls and proxies, but there are various ways around that, most of which involve using some sort of encryption. Some search engines retain search history, but that's easy to circumvent by logging out of the engine or just using a different one.
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