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Choosing Internet/Firewall Router

I plan on upgrading a network I am working on for a new internet connection. We are bumping from a 16 Mbps internet connection to a 50 Mbps connection. I also want to run the Cisco firewall module on it. I am currently running a Cisco 1841 with Adv Security IOS, which is more than enough for the 16 Mbps connection. I will soon have access to a 2801 running the same IOS and the firewall module. This will be used strictly for the firewall and NAT point for internet. From what I read, neither will be sufficient enough to handle the 50 Mbps internet speeds. My question is would an ASA 5505 be sufficient enough or would I be better off going with a 2811 or 2821. I need to keep the prices below $250 or so and I know I can pick up those options at that price.

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A 5505 can handle that throughput.

A 2811 probably can't do sustained 50Mbps throughput with FW and NAT enabled. 2821 can do this throughput.

If all you need is a small office perimeter firewall, you should just get an ASA.

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A 5505 can handle that throughput.

A 2811 probably can't do sustained 50Mbps throughput with FW and NAT enabled. 2821 can do this throughput.

If all you need is a small office perimeter firewall, you should just get an ASA.

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Choosing Internet/Firewall Router

Thanks for the help. I found a 2821 manufactured in 2010 for only $100, so I picked it up.

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On paper, even the 2821 is a bit "light" for 50 Mbps (duplex).

A 2821 is rated at 170 Kpps.  Minimum size Ethernet requires 14.881 Kpps per 10 Mbps.  So, in theory, your 50 Mbps (duplex) could require up to [edit] 148.81 Kpps, and that doesn't account for additional CPU load supporting configured services nor Cisco's generally recommendation you don't want to exceed about 75% of maximum CPU performance (edit - i.e. 75% of 170 Kpps would be 127.5 Kpps).

That said, it's unlikely your link will be running at full capacity all the time, and larger packets have a much lower PPS requirement.

So for $100, you can certainly try it and see how it works for you.

PS:

BTW, Cisco actually recommends the 2921 for up to 50 Mbps (WAN - duplex), but that router is rated at 479 Kpps.

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Re: Choosing Internet/Firewall Router

Thanks for the reply. I realize now from your reply that I probably missed information I should have disclosed. It is a 50 Mbps down and a 3 Mbps uplink, so it is not actually 50 Mbps both ways. We have a 50 down/up speed at work, and we do have a 2921 for that. However, this is for a church I do IT for, and the uploads are at the mercy of the cable company connection. That's why I thought the 2821 would be ok for our connection. Does that change my question any? Sorry for skipping over that part, I wasnt thinking about it when I made the post!

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It is a 50 Mbps down and a 3 Mbps uplink, so it is not actually 50 Mbps both ways. . . . Does that change my question any?

Sure does!  You've just eliminated 47 Mbps, or almost half the possible load.  For that, the 2821 is a much better fit.

. . . and the uploads are at the mercy of the cable company connection.

Shape your egress for your uplink bandwidth, and use FQ.

e.g.

policy-map shape3Mbps

class class-default

shape average 3000000

service-policy sample

policy-map sample

class class-default

fair-queue

interface gige# !cable interface

service-policy output shape3Mbps