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system ID of 0 in ISIS

Hi All,
Is system ID of 0000.0000.0000 is invalid in ISIS or not recommended ?
Though, ISO 10589 document doesn't talk explicitly whether a SYS ID of 0000.0000.0000 is invalid.
As per Juniper's documentation, a SYS ID of 0000.0000.0000 is invalid and they won't be forming ISIS adjacency with this setting.
https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/is-is/topics/concept/is-is-routing-overview.html

So in Cisco, is there any recommendation to not to use SYS ID of 0000.0000.0000 in ISIS ?

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Giuseppe Larosa
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Hello @jaideepchoudhary ,

>> Is system ID of 0000.0000.0000 is invalid in ISIS or not recommended ?

As far as I know it is invalid.

The System ID is actually  part of  a CNLS address of ISO OSI protocol stack.

CLNS addresses were thought to be a substitute for IPv4.

But:

in creating the standards many different address formats are allowed as a result of this CLNS addresses have variable sizes ranging from 6 bytes to 20 bytes.

ISDN  / PSTN E164 can be used.

ATM had a 20 bytes format to create SVCs

As a result of this.

Usually System ID can be built by converting the IPv4 address of the loopback as System ID must be unique in area for L1 nodes and unique in whole domain for L1/l2 or L2 IS-IS nodes.

 

Several management systems of SDH equipment uses CLNS natively and IS-IS started as a link state to route CLNS packets. LAter it was extended to be able to route also IPv4 prefixes and then IPv6 prefixes.

 

In very old IOS we needed to enable clns routing to use IS-IS, this is not needed anymore. But be aware that IS-IS is not an IP based protocol but it can route IPv4, IPv6 address families and there is also support for multi topology.

 

Hope to help

Giuseppe

 

Hi Giuseppe,

 

You mentioned that SID of 0000.0000.0000 may be invalid, but in Cisco node, we can define the SID of 0000.0000.0000.
Also, in the standard documentation like ISO 10589, it is not mentioned anywhere that a SYS ID of all zeros is invalid.

 

Regards
Jaideep

Hello,

 

I don't know if it is not recommended, but I just lab-tested this, and a system ID of 0000.0000.0000 works, the adjacency is formed.

Yes, Georg,

 

A Cisco node allows.
So that is why wanted to confirm if it is valid or not ?

 

Regards

Jaideep